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Hi fellow OCNers. I need some advice on my decision:

I live in Venezuela, and ambient temps are 30-36C. I have the AMD stock cooler, but when I'm folding or transcoding a video CPU reaches 60° at 5500 RPM. I, then, by software, put fan on max, and it reaches 6800 RPM, but keeps CPU at 56°C. It sounds like a turbine so much that I do it on purpose(put fan on max)when playing FSX so it gives some nice ambient noise.

I want to know if it's worth for me to get the Hyper 212+. Not if it's worth the money, but the risk of installing it on my computer. This is because I don't have more dollars, and I don't wanna mess up the mobo.

Questions:

1-Is it risky to install the Hyper 212+?, providing I have lots of experience ensambling and dissambling computers, but I've never installed an aftermarket cooler.

2-Can I remove the stock AMD paste that kinda glues by running P95 until CPU reaches 60°c, then shutdown PSU and remove cooler quickly?.

3-Is OCZ freeze any good?, as I want to use it for my inexperience mounting aftermarket coolers, specially with HDT, so I don't want a capacitive paste like AS5.

4-Can I clean old paste using 99% alcohol?
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post #2 of 15
1. It is not risky as long as you know what you are doing. Seeing that you have installed heatsinks before, aftermarket ones are not very different to install.

2. Dont quite understand.

3. OCZ freeze is good

4. Yes
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post #3 of 15
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In respect on the second question, You know that AMD's stock pad/paste is kinda sticky, there're stories of people that pulled the heatsink without moving it side-to-side and the cpu went off the ZIF socket, bending pins in the CPU.

I ask you that if I warm up the CPU by running P95, then quickly shutdown windows(or turn it off by button/psu switch), and move it side to side while it's warm, is it easier to remove it?
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post #4 of 15
The 212+ is a very easy install provided your case has a cutout behind the CPU socket. If not, then you'll need to remove the motherboard, and install the backplate. After that installation is easy.
I'd also suggest getting a 2nd fan with the 212+, for a little extra airflow. It will surely help considering the ambient temps in your area.
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post #5 of 15
check this out! perhaps this might solve your problem
http://www.overclock.net/air-cooling...an-2011-a.html
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post #6 of 15
1) the install directions are really easy to follow. If you have experience building comptures you will be just fine.

2) not sure what you mean here, the stock TIM should not glue the cpu to the heatsink. It should come off easy.

3) I have always used AS5, it works good and does not conduct electricity

4) not only can you, you should clean it with 99% alcohol
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post #7 of 15
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I know my case doesn't have a cutout(I took out side door).

Is the backplate conductive on both sides, or is it insulated on one?
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post #8 of 15
The backplate is insulated on one side with a thick plastic layer. All is well.

Pulkpull - I've pulled Athlon XP chips out of their ZIF socket with stock thermal paste, AS3, Ceramique. It's due to a lack of air and "vacuum" effect between the heatsink and CPU. IHS on a chip exacerbates the issue (I watched a friend pull a PhII out of a board about a year ago). The 212+ is not a perfectly flat base, as it has grooves between the heatpipes. This seems to mitigate the sticking of the CPU to the heatsink. I still suggest twisting/tilting the heatsink off to prevent any issues.

Edit: rubbing alcohol works for basic removal, but has issues leaving a sanitary surface. I use electrical contact cleaner, which evaporates much faster, and is used for sanitizing electrical contacts (removing grease, dirt, etc.), as well as brake parts, although it's not flammable, or as hard on the skin as regular brake parts cleaner (which I've also used). It's also easier on plastics. Don't forget to use something lint-free; a coffee filter.
Edited by UnexplodedCow - 1/7/11 at 8:25am
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post #9 of 15
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Thanks for clearing me out, but I still have a doubt:

Will the cooler fit, if placed in east-to-west orientation, providing I have two XMS3 DHX sticks. The one with heatsinks.
Edited by fabrizziop - 1/7/11 at 10:34am
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post #10 of 15
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Lol I would like some help, as I on my fault said I was done, but I had 1 more question.

I'm sorry. Will the cooler fit, if placed in east-to-west orientation, providing I have two XMS3 DHX sticks. The one with heatsinks.
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