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So I'm looking into building an HTPC for my parents. It would be used for watching and recording TV, watching Blu-ray DVDs, watching things on Netflix and youtube, doing Skype calls, and basic internet browsing and light gaming (Torchlight, LOTRO).



I've picked out the core components that I think would do best for the job:

AMD Athlon II X4 640 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-871-_-Product)
Geil 4GB DDR3 1066 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-262-_-Product)
MSI 740GM-P25 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-288-_-Product)
Asus Radeon HD5450 Silent (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-377-_-Product)

And for a case and PSU the Antec NSK6582B with the Earthwatts EA430D Green. Some people hate on these cases, but I chose it specifically because of the excellent hard drive mounting system which has silicone grommets and all that, it's a very quiet case with adequate cooling that's fairly easy to work with, and it comes with a quality PSU.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...ntec%20nsk6582

Lite-On Blu-ray drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-325-_-Product

And Windows 7 Home Premium.

So anyway, that leaves two major components of an HTPC missing: the TV tuner and the hard drive.

I want a reliable 1TB drive so we can store a lot of shows and movies at once, use it as a tivo unit but less sucky. However, I want one that's fairly quiet. The rig doesn't have to be 100% silent, but it should be on the quiet side. I know Samsung F3 drives are cheap, but they're also a little on the loud side from what I've heard. What are some good quiet options?


Finally, I don't know much about TV tuners. I was looking at this one from Hauppauge: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16815116036 But I really don't know what's important to look for.


Any advice?
post #2 of 22
I can't really help you on the TV tuners, but unless you find a review for the quietest hdds, your best bet may be to just buy a 2.5" hdd. 1TB notebook drives are around the $100 mark.

If, for whatever reason, 2.5" drives are out of the question, the WD-GP was the quietest 3.5" i've ever owned, and the Samsung F2 is supposedly their "green and quiet" model.
 
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post #3 of 22
The WD Greens are very quiet drives and are reliable.

As for a TV tuner, where are they getting their signal from (OTA, Cable, Sat etc)?

If OTA, then the 2250 is a great card for that. They can watch and record at the same time and works great with Windows 7.
If Cable, it will work OK, but they will only be able to get unscrambled NTSC channels (2-89) and Clear QAM channels (which with most cable providers is just the main OTA channels at a lower quality than you get with an antenna). They will not be able to get any premium channels, and many cable companies are even taking the NTSC channels off.
If your planning on using the set top box (for cable or sat) the 2250 is not needed, since you will only be able to use 1 tuner (signal from the box) and the other is useless. Many cable boxes also only output SD signal via Coax.

If you want all the cable channels, then you need a ceton tuner for $400 (and a cable card from your cable company, which can cost up to $15/month on top of the regular bill).
Edited by blupupher - 1/7/11 at 1:05pm
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Samsung Spinpoint F3's would be my reccommendation.
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Quote:
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Samsung Spinpoint F3's would be my reccommendation.
I had an F3, and under load only my WD Black was louder. It's fine when it is idle, but makes a great alarm clock if you're doing random reads/writes .
 
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Well my brother has the WD Green 1TB model and you cant hear it over the stock 775 fan but it's not the fastest drive you can find around....
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Also, why the x4? Really not needed and a x2 240 would do what you need and save you $45 (or get the OEM for $5 less and get your own HSF).
4 gigs of RAM is not needed, but with the prices right now, what the heck (but I would at least get a 1333 kit, not the 1066 you have). You could get a 2x1 gig kit and save $15 though and not notice any difference in performance.
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We use cable. A $400 card plus $15/mo is waaaay and away too much. I guess we could skip the recording bit, though that's a big part of the convincing. Could still use it as a TV internet box I guess.
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Yup, it is expensive, one of several reasons I never got it (and I got rid of cable completely).
They are supposed to come out with a 2 tuner card sometime ($200?), but you still have the possibility of the monthly card rental fee (I have heard some cable companies give you 1 for free, but can't verify, you would need to contact your provider).

Seems I heard Ducky talking about another company having a similar cable card tuner (Silicon Dust?) but don't know the status of that.
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Ya Silicon Dust should be releasing theirs soon, $200 or below from what I have read. But OTA > cable, execpt no espn
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