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That voltage range makes me feel like intel is waiting for people to blow up their chips lol
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That voltage range makes me feel like intel is waiting for people to blow up their chips lol
Really? Intel would not say 1.52v is safe if it wasn't. Stop being anti SB.
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Really? Intel would not say 1.52v is safe if it wasn't. Stop being anti SB.

I'm not but 1.52v through a 32nm fab is going to be very interesting.


Apparently you can be a fab fanboy now according to your comment.
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I'm gonna wait for you guys to figure it out before I buy mine
 
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I'm gonna wait for you guys to figure it out before I buy mine
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This man ain't no guinea pig.Lets others test it for him. Smart imho
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I'm not but 1.52v through a 32nm fab is going to be very interesting.


Apparently you can be a fab fanboy now according to your comment.
Because you clearly are more educated on Intel's chips than their engineers are.

Intel typically advises people to use a max VID lower than the max that is really safe. The lower Intel states their max VID = longer lasting chips = less warranties that need to be fulfilled = more money for Intel.

Why would Intel make the max VID of a chip too high? It really makes no sense from a business perspective.

And no I will not be purchasing Sandy Bridge or Ivy Bridge, but I just don't understand why you would think people are going to fry their chips by following Intel's specs.
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Because you clearly are more educated on Intel's chips than their engineers are.

Intel typically advises people to use a max VID lower than the max that is really safe. The lower Intel states their max VID = longer lasting chips = less warranties that need to be fulfilled = more money for Intel.

Why would Intel make the max VID of a chip too high? It really makes no sense from a business perspective.

And no I will not be purchasing Sandy Bridge or Ivy Bridge, but I just don't understand why you would think people are going to fry their chips by following Intel's specs.
That's not exactly it.

The 1.52v "limit" rather than HEAT limit, requires a change in overclocking philosophy.

There will be those who are stuck in the old thinking; "If it's under 80deg, I'm fine!"

These will be the ones that will damage their chips.
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That's not exactly it.

The 1.52v "limit" rather than HEAT limit, requires a change in overclocking philosophy.

There will be those who are stuck in the old thinking; "If it's under 80deg, I'm fine!"

These will be the ones that will damage their chips.
The new Sandy Bridge chips have been shown to not put out as much heat as an older chip at the same voltage, so it will balance out in that respect.

If Intel was concerned about people burning out their chips in this way, they would lower the Max VID.

I understand your point, however, I am merely stating that Intel would know better than us just how much their chips can handle.
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i'll probably run mine at 5ghz 1.45-1.5v under water

if it dies it dies lol, i think itll be fine though
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Total power consumption/dissipation of SB seems to be pretty low, even with massive OCs at the ~1.5v many were giving it, so it seems perfectly plausible to me that Intel's VID range is accurate and acceptable.

Transistor size in and of itself doesn't say much about how much voltage they can handle. Current is the other major factor. SB draw much less current and even at the higher voltage, so total power going through the transistors is similar or less.
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