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The AUR has its potential risks since it isn't truly vetted. However, it is invaluable for simplifying the installation/compilation of common software and varied configurations of this software. I use it for firefox in particular. I used to install firefox-pgo-beta but I have since moved to firefox-beta-bin as PGO doesn't really make a great deal of difference and just means I need to wait for an 45-60 minutes (2 compilations + a bunch of profiling scripts) before I can use it (upgrading requires me to go through the process again). The betas aren't dependent on xulrunner either, so you can remove it if you don't need it for anything else. The AUR packages for 3.6.13 may also be independent of xulrunner, but I'm not sure. I personally can't use 3.6.x on Linux, it's just far too sluggish. The Windows builds are infinitely faster.
    
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Thanks but I'm pretty happy with GNOME with compiz.
Beautiful...Choice is why Linux is teh win ...
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I personally can't use 3.6.x on Linux, it's just far too sluggish.
Exactly why I moved to Opera and Chromium. I can top both of those scores today as my OC is far more more refined than it was when I benched. Custom kernel with BFS takes Opera to around the 16500 mark...



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It's funny that we're talking about browsers. Now I can't install anything other than 3.6.13.

I tried Firefox beta bin, Firefox4 and Firefox-nightly and it all installs 3.6.13...

The last one I tried was nightly and it says it is installing 4.0 and it shows up as minefield in Apps>Internet. Still runs as 3.6.13 even if I remove firefox-branded.
    
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Something's not right if that's what is going on. did you purge FF? Cause there's no way you can install from the AUR firefox-nightly and get 3.6.13, it's called minefield though after you install it.
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post #36 of 128
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The AUR has its potential risks since it isn't truly vetted. However, it is invaluable for simplifying the installation/compilation of common software and varied configurations of this software. I use it for firefox in particular. I used to install firefox-pgo-beta but I have since moved to firefox-beta-bin as PGO doesn't really make a great deal of difference and just means I need to wait for an 45-60 minutes (2 compilations + a bunch of profiling scripts) before I can use it (upgrading requires me to go through the process again). The betas aren't dependent on xulrunner either, so you can remove it if you don't need it for anything else. The AUR packages for 3.6.13 may also be independent of xulrunner, but I'm not sure. I personally can't use 3.6.x on Linux, it's just far too sluggish. The Windows builds are infinitely faster.
I'm using AUR less and less, because quite a few of the packages I want to install have messed up PKGBUILDs, and its usually easier to grab the source from the author's website and compile it yourself.


Also, its good to see you finally got rid of that Ubuntu avatar.

As for the other browsers, make sure you're clicking the right icon. I just went and uninstalled my firefox packages because I had firefox, firefox-beta, and minefield in my menus.

Try running firefox-beta-bin from the command line.
    
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Exactly why I moved to Opera and Chromium.
Scores are great but are completely irrelevant when it comes to browser responsiveness, and in my experience, page load time as well. I have used Opera and it rendered pages in the most annoying way possible. The page would be displayed before the CSS had been parsed and so a fraction of a second after it was displayed the layout completely changed. Chromium is normally pretty responsive but page load times are sometimes faster and sometimes slower than Firefox. It's better on a slower system than Firefox IMO.

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I tried Firefox beta bin, Firefox4 and Firefox-nightly and it all installs 3.6.13...
That doesn't make sense at all
    
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It is called Minefield and Minefield safemode in my menu. I see it being built as Firefox 4.0pre8 (can't remember the exact name) when I install it.

I've tried running firefox-nightly from the CLI, same deal.

Alright, how do I purge all application data from the system? For complete removal? Like apt-get purge name with aptitude.
    
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I'm using AUR less and less, because quite a few of the packages I want to install have messed up PKGBUILDs, and its usually easier to grab the source from the author's website and compile it yourself.
makepkg is a very nice tool indeed. It's much more reliable when it comes to multithreaded compilation than dpkg-buildpackage, which often just didn't honour the -j flag and would compile an application with a single job. You can imagine how long it took me to compile Firefox
    
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pacman -Rn package_name - purging package
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