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I didn't like the beta originally, then I gave it a shot and I got it to look and feel like the older firefox, but much faster and better all-around. I've come to drastically prefer it now.

I'd probably use Chromium more if it handled a few things differently.
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Title bars (any browser, any application) are not an issue with a proper window manager. For example, simply add the following to ~./jwmrc to remove the Opera title bar in JWM:

Code:
<Group>
<Class>Opera</Class>
<Option>noborder</Option>
<Option>notitle</Option>
</Group>

I used to build Firefox-PGO in the mozillaZine Forums, here are some I posted for Ubuntu users back in 2009 (links are dead): Downloads: Portable Minefield (Firefox) 3.0.10 PGO (w/o Java) Builds. Suffice to say that I have a bit of experience with FF. And with Opera (since 2.x on Windows). Not so much with Chromium, though I am currently running a custom compile (not from ABS). That said, Opera is the definite speed king and not just across benchmarks. And it is highly customizable. FF is the most forgiving and compatible, yet the slowest, even with PGO and chrome heavily hacked. Chromium is right there in between.


In binary size and dep requirements, perhaps. Yet Opera consistently scores higher in every instance of every benchmark I run vs. the same version of Opera under Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit. This is repeatable. Unless you are short on disk space and memory, I would not worry too much as performance > size. But as a previous post alluded to, Opera does have it quirks. Fortunately, most quirks have their workarounds, including the redraw issue mentioned before. Moreover, it provides rich usability once it is learned. It is a lot like Linux in that you have to hack away at config files to get the most out of it.


Again, Opera is highly customizable. You can basically have it take up as little, or as much space as you desire. I hacked the default theme to show menu/address/navigation toolbars as text-only with minimal padding. Or you can run fullscreen with a visible address bar. Or with a visible address bar + navigation toolbar. Anything, really. Like many of you, I run a highly optimized Arch box with lightweight apps compiled with aggressive flags. surf, Midori, I have literally tried them all. But when it comes down to native features + usability + performance, Opera is hard to beat. To me, that is .


And I could probably take the Mozilla source code and design my own custom web browser that works as well as Chrome.

The whole "Yea, but this works just as well if <insert page of instructions>" argument doesn't work on Linux, because of it's open nature. We're talking about a system where Gnome's calculator is potentially a better web browser than Chrome.

The point is that Chrome works. It works right after compile, and it doesn't require any amount of cheap hacks or configuration.
    
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I'd probably use Chromium more if it handled a few things differently.
Same here. I don't like how bookmarks are handled and I don't like the way browsing history is (or isn't) displayed when you start typing in something that you've visited before. Navigating browsing history is much nicer in Firefox, at least without messing around with any configuration.
    
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Okay, question for today. I hope you guys don't see me as a pain in the butt by now. I really am trying to solve my own problems.

Character encoding. Specifically this thread: http://www.overclock.net/off-topic/8...on-thread.html

It should look like Atomic Frost's avatar but my character encoding is messed up and I get the little squares with symbols (no idea what they're called but you know what I mean). Right now, I'm set to en_US.UTF-8 in my rc.conf and Firefox which I thought was the best one but they don't show up.
    
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The look of disapproval is using Kannada fonts, which Arch lacks.

You can get the required font from the lohit-fonts package in AUR.

Just

Code:
yaourt -S lohit-fonts
and then restart your web browser. It should work. (Works in Chrome at least)
    
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Okay, here is today's question. I have a HP wireless network printer that I want to get set up. I know I need CUPS. Now the wiki says I may need Samba for the connection but I never needed that in Ubuntu, I don't think as when I went to enable file sharing, it made me install samba.

I'm lost on this one fellas.
    
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IIRC Ubuntu comes preinstalled with Samba, among other things (which is why the Ubuntu base install is over twice as large as the base Arch install)
    
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I can't get this to work
    
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Maybe you need the hplip driver?
    
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