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http://en.ocworkbench.com/tech/asroc...ull-review/13/

"Overclocking wise, we managed to run the CPU up to ~4.8GHz on AIR"

It seems to me that there were only about four real English-language reviews of H67 boards to this day. One (above) said that H67 can overclock, one said that the multiplier control had no effect (but that one may have been using an engineering sample mobo to test), one tested the board with the 2300 non-K chip, and one tested the official Intel motherboard, which had the multiplier control locked out in BIOS.
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post #32 of 41
This board the MFR claims can overclock the H67, and a review done on this board on Jan 7th claims to have made it to 4.7Ghz

1. 100% All Solid Capacitor design
2. Supports Intel® K-Series unlocked CPU
3. Supports Dual Channel DDR3 1333
4. Intel® HD Graphics 2000/3000 and new Visual Features, DX10.1, Pixel Shader 4.1
5. Supports Blu-ray Stereoscopic 3D with HDMI 1.4a
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post #33 of 41
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Originally Posted by Ding Chavez View Post
AMD HATER, if you don't like AMD don't buy their products you don't have to be a complete turd about it.
More competition is better for the consumer. AMDs existence actually benefits Intel fanboys even if they don't have the brain cells to work this out. By the way I'm not an AMD fanboy so don't bother, I'm a PC fanboy.

I'm sure the Intel marketing department have analysed the chip features to the nth degree and this is what they've come up with to maximise profit margins.
what exactly was it that he said that constitutes "being a turd"?
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post #34 of 41
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Originally Posted by hamster3null View Post
It is NOT true that the H67 chipset does not support overclocking. Take it from the horse's mouth:

http://www.intel.com/cd/products/ser...iew/462674.htm

"Intel® H67 Express Chipset also enables overclocking features of unlocked 2nd generation Intel® Core™ processors."

The real reason why they put 6 EUs in non-K versions could have to do with fab quality. K and non-K versions have the same die area and the same number of transistors (at least I haven't seen anyone claim otherwise), the ones with all 12 EUs functional are labelled 'K', the ones where some EU's are faulty are labelled non-K.

As far as I know, even if you don't have the H67 chipset, you can still use the built-in "graphics card" part of the CPU, for example, to accelerate video compression.
If you are right then that makes a lot of sense.

However every tech site and even the Intel Field Engineer state that h67 is cpu multiplier locked despite the CPU.

I am hoping I get a H67 to review in the next month or so, so I can see for myself. I am finally getting a CPU for SB, but its a 2500K. Gotta pinch some more pennies to get the 2600K.
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post #35 of 41
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Originally Posted by hamster3null View Post
http://en.ocworkbench.com/tech/asroc...ull-review/13/

"Overclocking wise, we managed to run the CPU up to ~4.8GHz on AIR"

It seems to me that there were only about four real English-language reviews of H67 boards to this day. One (above) said that H67 can overclock, one said that the multiplier control had no effect (but that one may have been using an engineering sample mobo to test), one tested the board with the 2300 non-K chip, and one tested the official Intel motherboard, which had the multiplier control locked out in BIOS.

"Overclocking wise, we managed to run the CPU up to ~3.7GHz on AIR. In fact, we are more interested to share that the GPU clk can be clocked up from 1.1GHz to 1.9GHz giving a big boost to 3D performance."

3.7GHz happens to be the turbo speed of the 2500K cpu that they used.

So still hte jury is saying no overclocking.

I will find out for myself the 2500K will be here in a few days, maybe I will spring the $100 for H67 board and find out for myself. After I run the 2500K on the P8P67 Deluxe of course
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post #36 of 41
Why would anyone use these IGPs to begin with. Those people that dont play games 6 to 12 means nothing. Also if its for HTPC you are better off getting a AMD or Nvidia dedicated GPU.
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post #37 of 41
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LOL

I use IGPs on 2 of the 5 PCs in my house. And if you count the WDTV Live HD box... I suppose that is a third

It would be 3 out of 5, but I was on a budget, and one of the boards I got was a nVidia chipset and their IGPs are just terrible. (So Ironic).

Do they equal the the 6850 or 580 I have? No...

I dumped discrete GFX for my HTPC a while back. Running a 890GX now, and it has been just great. Sempron 140 unlocked to a dual core, and plays HD content flawlessly. DXVA on or off Teh 12EU is supposed to be BETTER than my current IGP too. So yes I am interested.
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Well I got the 2500K anyway. Have not picked up a H67 yet, going to wait and see how the P8P67 w/ 580 performs first
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post #39 of 41
It does make sense when you look at it from an OEM standpoint. Lets say DELL or HP is offering you a pc with integrated graphics, they give you the option to customize with either the 2600 or 2600k and tell you that your Graphics performance will be best with the 2600k.

As said before most people do not overclock. And it does say the K series GPU can be overclocked on the H67 chipset.
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post #40 of 41
IGPs are a great marketing design. they make money.

granted sandy vag cpus are closer to a toy or a novelty then what we all want intel to focus on. a different manufacturer is workin on what we all desire.
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