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President Obama is planning to hand the U.S. Commerce Department authority over a forthcoming cybersecurity effort to create an Internet ID for Americans, a White House official said here today.

It's "the absolute perfect spot in the U.S. government" to centralize efforts toward creating an "identity ecosystem" for the Internet, White House Cybersecurity Coordinator Howard Schmidt said.
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"We are not talking about a national ID card," Locke said at the Stanford event. "We are not talking about a government-controlled system. What we are talking about is enhancing online security and privacy and reducing and perhaps even eliminating the need to memorize a dozen passwords, through creation and use of more trusted digital identities."

Schmidt stressed today that anonymity and pseudonymity will remain possible on the Internet. "I don't have to get a credential if I don't want to," he said. There's no chance that "a centralized database will emerge," and "we need the private sector to lead the implementation of this," he said.
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-501465_1...37-501465.html

I hope I posted this right. This is my first news post

Even if this is limited to transaction identification, it has me concerned. I like my anonymity.
Edited by Dronac - 1/8/11 at 11:32am
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I assume that what they're proposing is to be used in lieu of SSNs, for purposes of things like doing taxes, renewing license plates and whatnot online.

At least, I sincerely hope so.
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How about Internet operatering licenses? You need a level 2 to send .exe files. With a level 5, you not allowed to forward anything.
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How about Internet operatering licenses? You need a level 2 to send .exe files. With a level 5, you not allowed to forward anything.
Can you reread that in a mindset that cares about freedom? That would be terrible!

And having a requirement to send executables would easily be bypassed by spammers/hackers/phishers etc because they clearly have some knowledge of computers and would be able to reach 2, not to mention what about those times when some computer nub is trying to send a little app or something? Oh and of course you could just zip it up...
Edited by Madman340 - 1/8/11 at 11:00am
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I feel like the only thing the government sees the internet as is a place to send email where law breakers are running free and totally unpunishable in any way. A wild west to be tamed that offers nothing more than those basic services the politician's businesses utilize.
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Well when I saw the title and the snippet posted here, I thought it would be the end of online anonymity, but it looks like it's not so bad, and it would be implemented by the private sector for use in financial transactions and stuff like that. There's no obligation to to acquire one of these online IDs either.

It's difficult to stay off the topic of politics when something like this comes to light, but I think I'm at least allowed to say that I'm skeptical about anything the government wants to do. Even if this is to be implemented by the private sector, I would still rather have a system that the private sector came up with in the first place, not the government. When the government is given an inch, it tends to take a mile, but ranting beyond that would become political.

On the bright side, this might help prevent identity theft, but that seems pretty traceable unless money transfers to overseas bank accounts take place in which case, this system wouldn't do much good unless it was adopted globally, which again leads me to believe it would be better if it was developed by the private sector.

Oh well, we'll see where it leads I suppose, but I don't support it.
    
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Well when I saw the title and the snippet posted here, I thought it would be the end of online anonymity, but it looks like it's not so bad, and it would be implemented by the private sector for use in financial transactions and stuff like that. There's no obligation to to acquire one of these online IDs either.

It's difficult to stay off the topic of politics when something like this comes to light, but I think I'm at least allowed to say that I'm skeptical about anything the government wants to do. Even if this is to be implemented by the private sector, I would still rather have a system that the private sector came up with in the first place, not the government. When the government is given an inch, it tends to take a mile, but ranting beyond that would become political.

On the bright side, this might help prevent identity theft, but that seems pretty traceable unless money transfers to overseas bank accounts take place in which case, this system wouldn't do much good unless it was adopted globally, which again leads me to believe it would be better if it was developed by the private sector.

Oh well, we'll see where it leads I suppose, but I don't support it.
Thank you for atleast reading the article. For the 90% of you who arent going to read the article and instead just comment because you see the words "Goverment" and "Internet" in the same statement, atleast read this:

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"We are not talking about a national ID card," Locke said at the Stanford event. "We are not talking about a government-controlled system. What we are talking about is enhancing online security and privacy and reducing and perhaps even eliminating the need to memorize a dozen passwords, through creation and use of more trusted digital identities."

Schmidt stressed today that anonymity and pseudonymity will remain possible on the Internet. "I don't have to get a credential if I don't want to," he said. There's no chance that "a centralized database will emerge," and "we need the private sector to lead the implementation of this," he said.
This isn't some 'you need an ID to use the internet', this isn't some goverment plot to get everyones information to watch over you. If you are thinking that after reading the article (that is assuming people are reading the article) please take the foil hat off please.
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Thank you for atleast reading the article. For the 90% of you who arent going to read the article and instead just comment because you see the words "Goverment" and "Internet" in the same statement, atleast read this:



This isn't some 'you need an ID to use the internet', this isn't some goverment plot to get everyones information to watch over you. If you are thinking that after reading the article (that is assuming people are reading the article) please take the foil hat off please.
Ill add that to the original post.

I think this is sort of like a keychain app like you would find on OS X, but located in a central, controlled location. Personally, I don't like it because while the government may not require it, a business might choose to require you verify your identity through this system, or some items such as ammo be purchased through this system.
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Ill add that to the original post.

I think this is sort of like a keychain app like you would find on OS X, but located in a central, controlled location. Personally, I don't like it because while the government may not require it, a business might choose to require you verify your identity through this system, or some items such as ammo be purchased through this system.
I am definetly not saying that its a good thing or a bad thing, or that I want it, I just was tired of reading almost every comment being completly different then what the news story was acually about.
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This isn't some 'you need an ID to use the internet', this isn't some goverment plot to get everyones information to watch over you. If you are thinking that after reading the article (that is assuming people are reading the article) please take the foil hat off please.
If you think that the government will stop with small additions to net security, you are seriously misguided and ill-informed. If anything this opens a new avenue for them to peruse regulating the internet in the name of "safety & security".

There are numerous bills proposed everyday to end net neutrality, remove anonymity, and force regulate the internet. No tin foil hat required just some common sense and little knowledge about government. It began heavily just this year with the fcc reclassifying the internet as a telecommunications service instead of an information service.

Government interference in the private sector always ends the same way. Badly.

If you don't think creating these secure ID's are a problem, then what happens when these ID's are required to visit some sites? Then all sites? Will it stop there? Will you need a secure ID to access your ISP? Will you need a secure ID to buy something online? Let the private sector handle net security and keep the government out of it.

Your interpretation of the article isn't the only one. All others who see this as government intrusion are not tin foil hat wearing paranoids, just concerned internet users.
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