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post #1 of 22
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Hello

I've searched the on the web for a long time but the keyboards I come across either don't fit what i'm looking for or there's a lack of information about ghosting.

I'm looking for a basic keyboard (no need of fancy keys like macro etc) but robust enough for gaming, and with antighosting (atleast on spacebar + arrows keys), which costs 40€ maximum.

For exemple I used to own some keytronic keyboards, they were basic but I had no problem with ghosting. Thats the kind of keyboard I'm looking for. (they're not for sale anymore in Europe).

I tried the Microsoft sidewinder and it didn't fit what i was looking for.

If someone has an idea I'd be grateful
Edited by Biffleur - 1/8/11 at 1:15pm
post #2 of 22
Steelseries 6gv2. You can hit every key at once or the black widow. Can't hit every key at once but it's fine for gaming.
post #3 of 22
That may be a little spendy. Look here under "Gaming Optimized Keyboards". The iRocks and even the Newegg $11.99 special (I've seen at $9.99) may meet your needs.

It supposedly doesn't block on the WASD and arrow key combos.



Even comes with WASD keys. I don't like the Enter key but maybe you won't mind. And it's PS/2 but you can always get a USB adapter.

Edited by ripster - 1/8/11 at 12:35pm
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post #4 of 22
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Sorry I forgot to add a detail, I want to buy it at 40 € maximum.

I already stumbled across the i-rocks yea, might go for it. And I live in France, and newegg doesnt ship internationally (I'd rather buy in Europe anyway)
post #5 of 22
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Has anyone tried the I-rocks KR-6220G?


I am wondering this because there seems to be 2 versions, which is weird




As you can see on the second one the space bar is little and there are 2 keys next to both alt. So I'd like to know which one is in the box, if anyone tried it.
Edited by Biffleur - 1/10/11 at 6:04am
post #6 of 22
The first one is a keyboard layout for east asian languages...I can't imagine that they'd send that to you
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I apologize for this, but I can't help it:

"Anti-Ghosting" is the incorrect terminology. Ghosting is when two keys are pressed simultaneously, but then a third keystroke seems to occur out of nowhere even though your 2-key keystroke is clean. Ghosting is almost non-existent with today's keyboards.

Instead, the popular incorrect usage of Anti-Ghosting is actually referring to the Key Rollover. For example: Steelseries claims that their 7G and 6Gv2 have "Extreme Anti-Ghosting", and explain it this way: "Allows as many simultaneous key presses as there are keys on the keyboard." So, they are referring to N-Key Rollover, or "NKRO" for short, but they're too lazy to take the time to educate their customers.

So when a company like Razer says that their WASD cluster has improved Anti-Ghosting, they're saying that there is improved Key Rollover so that you shouldn't have any blocked keystrokes when pressing 2 or more keys at the same time.
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The first one is a keyboard layout for east asian languages...I can't imagine that they'd send that to you
The keys next to alt are used to switch asian/european characters right?


Thanks TwoCables for the details, to be honest I was a bit lost with the NKRO/anti ghosting thing. Now I finally understood, but as you mentionned it's mainly companies' fault.

But NKRO is an advanced feature? Because there are basic keyboards where you can press several keys at once
Edited by Biffleur - 1/10/11 at 6:14am
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The keys next to alt are used to switch asian/european characters right?


Thanks TwoCables for the details, to be honest I was a bit lost with the NKRO/anti ghosting thing. Now I finally understood, but as you mentionned it's mainly companies' fault.
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The keys next to alt are used to switch asian/european characters right?


Thanks TwoCables for the details, to be honest I was a bit lost with the NKRO/anti ghosting thing. Now I finally understood, but as you mentionned it's mainly companies' fault.

But NKRO is an advanced feature? Because there are basic keyboards where you can press several keys at once
NKRO is only a feature that is seen on mechanical keyboards. But it has to be a specified feature. NKRO means that all of the keys can be pressed at the same time and still register. However, there are many rubber domes where the "matrix" happens to be laid out in such a way where every common key combination goes through which makes it seem like it is close to having NKRO.

So, just being able to successfully send several keystrokes through at the same time doesn't mean a keyboard has NKRO. True NKRO is a specified feature on certain mechanical keyboards, and it only works with a USB to PS/2 adapter which is usually included with the keyboard.

Some might tell me about that Microsoft Sidewinder keyboard that allows up to 26 simultaneous key presses, and then use that to say that NKRO is unnecessary. However, my argument to that would be that even a mechanical without NKRO is superior because a good mechanical keyboard will have a superior build quality as well as a significantly superior key feel.

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