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Athlon x3 440: http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=1582906

Quick facts

CPU: 3.6Ghz

Vcore: set to 1.42 in the BIOS but it seems my motherboard overvolts it to 1.464-1.47

HT:1920Mhz

NB:2400Mhz/1.2V

Any suggestions?

I unlocked the 4th core but it didnt seem to want to be consistently stable at 3.5Ghz, it would pass OCCT for 1 hour but not two, and then games would hang sometimes. So i thought 3 cores at 3.6Ghz was good enough, i tried 3.7Ghz but i think i have to go to 1.5v at least.

Oh, and I have a hyper 212+, idles at 16-17C and during OCCT it was around 23C
post #2 of 22
temps peak at 23c under full load? I think you could bump the voltage up a little to reach 3.8 on three cores but I use phenom II and am not super familiar with athlon.
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1st. what are you reading for cpu temps? CPU socket, or core temps?

You also need to fill out your system specs so we can see what we're working with here.

You haven't mentioned any of your ram specs, use cpuz, memory tab and post a screen shot or snip of both memory tab and cpu tab, it'll help us out.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Sandman View Post
1st. what are you reading for cpu temps? CPU socket, or core temps?

You also need to fill out your system specs so we can see what we're working with here.

You haven't mentioned any of your ram specs, use cpuz, memory tab and post a screen shot or snip of both memory tab and cpu tab, it'll help us out.
Done and Done



I use HW monitor for temps, so it gives the core temps and then the CPUTIN temp which is about 10C above the cores.
post #5 of 22
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Originally Posted by stonedzen View Post
temps peak at 23c under full load? I think you could bump the voltage up a little to reach 3.8 on three cores but I use phenom II and am not super familiar with athlon.
Well it's around 19C in my room I'd say or like 65-70F.
But yeah those temps seemed oddly low to me, hopefully i didnt screw something up applying thermal paste or the cooler
post #6 of 22
Things look to be in order, but you need to be reading cputin temp values. From this screen shot idle is 32 and max of 38c. Was that while running Prime95? If so great, go for more HTT (increase ref clock) and watch the ram freq. If it wasn't while running Prime95 I'd do that next and let it run for a half hour and watch the cputin temp. Max should not exceed 55c, maybe even less sense your room is so cool. This way when it does warm up you won't be over heating the cpu.

Rules to follow, 55c max cputin temp (with a normal temp in room lol), Max cpu voltage shouldn't exceed 1.55v (1.5v for 24/7). You seem to have NB freq good and HT speed good, and ram is also where it should be at this point. While raising the ref clock you'll find the NB freq will increase, and if you start getting instability you may need to slightly increase the cpu/nb voltage (VDDNB) to maybe 1.25v-1.3v (max 1.4). At 2400 MHz NB auto voltage may be enough if that's where it is currently, but much over that you'll need to manually set it. Remember slight increases and test in between.

When you've reached your goal, than test with Prime95 for at least 12 hrs while watching temps to be sure it's stable.
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One more thing, let the NB Freq go and try to get it up to 2600MHz or just over. Higher NB Freq will give more performance. Maintain the HT Link as close to 2000 MHz as you can. Looking real good so far, good job! Just watch that cputin temp.
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post #8 of 22
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Originally Posted by The Sandman View Post
Things look to be in order, but you need to be reading cputin temp values. From this screen shot idle is 32 and max of 38c. Was that while running Prime95? If so great, go for more HTT (increase ref clock) and watch the ram freq. If it wasn't while running Prime95 I'd do that next and let it run for a half hour and watch the cputin temp. Max should not exceed 55c, maybe even less sense your room is so cool. This way when it does warm up you won't be over heating the cpu.

Rules to follow, 55c max cputin temp (with a normal temp in room lol), Max cpu voltage shouldn't exceed 1.55v (1.5v for 24/7). You seem to have NB freq good and HT speed good, and ram is also where it should be at this point. While raising the ref clock you'll find the NB freq will increase, and if you start getting instability you may need to slightly increase the cpu/nb voltage (VDDNB) to maybe 1.25v-1.3v (max 1.4). At 2400 MHz NB auto voltage may be enough if that's where it is currently, but much over that you'll need to manually set it. Remember slight increases and test in between.

When you've reached your goal, than test with Prime95 for at least 12 hrs while watching temps to be sure it's stable.
The max on HW monitor wasnt during load, I was using OCCT for testing and it doesnt like having HW monitor open at the same time. Now, when I find time I'll have to test with Prime 95.

Any reason you use the CPUTIN temp rather than the core temps?
post #9 of 22
Rule to follow is core temps or cpu socket which ever is higher. It varies with whom you ask but this what I consider the correct method. Example, with my PHII 1090T it's known that the core temp monitors are not properly calibrated causing them to read about 10-12c low. So by taking the core temp and say it shows only 52c under load in reality their really running at 62-64c which is over the max temp and probably causing early failure. OUCH lol. The mobo sensors have a higher probability of reading correctly, therefore it's better to read the cpu socket temps, in your case the cputin temp.
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Make sure you have a temp monitor prog running with Prime95 and watch it for at least the first half hour to see how hot it actually runs, don't just start it and leave for the night lol. I say 12 hrs at this point for you for a final test, but myself when I've reached my goal I'll test for 24 hrs with Prime95. Many on here do it differently, but a good majority consider stable after a 24 hr run.
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