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Um. There are little capacitors and little square black boxes. I assume the black boxes are the VRMs?
Yes.
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Um. There are little capacitors and little square black boxes. I assume the black boxes are the VRMs?
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Originally Posted by pioneerisloud View Post
Yes.
Pioneerisloud is right, but true electronic nerds (LIKE ME) know them as mosfet transistor.
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I'd personally suggest the Kingston Hyper X DDR2-1066, CAS5, 2.30v sticks. I've had no issues getting them to 1150 CAS 5.
  • Lower timings (CAS is one of the timings), the faster.
  • Higher the speed, the faster.
  • Dual channel = faster than single channel
  • Mixing sticks is bad, you will be limited by the slower stuff.
  • Your motherboard won't overclock that processor anyway, as its a 4 phase power design and no VRM sinks. That board is actually prone to VRM fires.

If you've got cash to spend on a board and DDR3 (like a good $200 or so), then go for it. If you don't, then get the good DDR2 now, and pickup a good DDR2 board later (even if its used here off OCN).
He is running AMD and it likes low voltage ram.

If you can find them cheap enough a 2x2GB kit of OCZ Blades LV. I had the cheaper set, I forget if it was 800 4-4-4 or 1066 5-5-5 IIRC they are the same sticks either way.

Was able to push mine to 1170 5-5-5 at 1.9v and 1000 4-4-4 was were I ran them 24/7 on my phenom 920. at 1.8v
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Um. There are little capacitors and little square black boxes. I assume the black boxes are the VRMs?
The black boxes are the ferrite chokes and they do not need to be sinked.

The small rectangular black SMDs around the Black boxes are the FETs and need to be sinked if you intend to push that 945.

Unsinked FETs on AMD boards usually mean it is intended for a 90W or lower CPU. The 130W capable boards ALWAYS have sinks on them.
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He is running AMD and it likes low voltage ram.

If you can find them cheap enough a 2x2GB kit of OCZ Blades LV. I had the cheaper set, I forget if it was 800 4-4-4 or 1066 5-5-5 IIRC they are the same sticks either way.

Was able to push mine to 1170 5-5-5 at 1.9v and 1000 4-4-4 was were I ran them 24/7 on my phenom 920. at 1.8v

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I'd personally suggest the Kingston Hyper X DDR2-1066, CAS5, 2.30v sticks. I've had no issues getting them to 1150 CAS 5.
I also think the max voltage of his board (without a BIOS flash) is 2.1v for his RAM lanes. So that RAM wouldn't even run at spec now that I'm looking at it again.

Edit: Quoted the wrong RAM, I'm talking about the Hyper X's

Edit 2: I found a list of supported RAM for your motherboard here <-------------------
Edited by CovertCover - 1/9/11 at 6:57am
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He is running AMD and it likes low voltage ram.

If you can find them cheap enough a 2x2GB kit of OCZ Blades LV. I had the cheaper set, I forget if it was 800 4-4-4 or 1066 5-5-5 IIRC they are the same sticks either way.

Was able to push mine to 1170 5-5-5 at 1.9v and 1000 4-4-4 was were I ran them 24/7 on my phenom 920. at 1.8v
Really now? So me taking 800 sticks to as high as 1250 stable, that's something my AMD chip just hates huh? My RAM is rated for 800, 5-5-5-15, 2.30v. I have never ONCE had a problem with these sticks.

I do have to say though, the sticks you recommended do sound very nice. I'd love to get me a couple sets of those if I were looking for DDR2.

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Originally Posted by CovertCover View Post
I also think the max voltage of his board (without a BIOS flash) is 2.1v for his RAM lanes. So that RAM wouldn't even run at spec now that I'm looking at it again.

Edit: Quoted the wrong RAM, I'm talking about the Hyper X's

Edit 2: I found a list of supported RAM for your motherboard here <-------------------
I could have sworn mine supported up to 2.40v on the memory. DDR2 has STOCK voltages up to 2.30v. I don't see why his board wouldn't allow at least that much.
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I love my Hyper-x. Running at 5-5-5 @ 926Mhz (had to drop down the ram to increase my OC. Still able to run 3.7 on my Athlon X3 with a max temp of 40C...on the same board as the op.
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Really now? So me taking 800 sticks to as high as 1250 stable, that's something my AMD chip just hates huh? My RAM is rated for 800, 5-5-5-15, 2.30v. I have never ONCE had a problem with these sticks.
What I think he means by this is that AMD chips perfer tighter timings over higher speed, but if you can get both, celebrate!


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I could have sworn mine supported up to 2.40v on the memory. DDR2 has STOCK voltages up to 2.30v. I don't see why his board wouldn't allow at least that much.
I would search google, there are a few threads of people complaining about only being able to raise the RAM voltage to 2.1v

Don't quote me on it though, because I don't own the board.
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The black boxes are the ferrite chokes and they do not need to be sinked.

The small rectangular black SMDs around the Black boxes are the FETs and need to be sinked if you intend to push that 945.

Unsinked FETs on AMD boards usually mean it is intended for a 90W or lower CPU. The 130W capable boards ALWAYS have sinks on them.
http://i52.tinypic.com/w7nk2.png
Talking bout the red?
And the link Covert sent me said something
Due to AMD AM3/ AM2+ CPU limitation, DDR2 1066 or above speed is only supported by 1 dimm per channel
Something I read across when I was also reading the bad reviews of my board
Said something about buying 1066 ram lowers to 800 under some circumstances?
If the RAM you suggested works then everything is fine.
My CPU is the C2 rev. which is 125 watts...
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yes the ones circled in red are what needs sinking.

The RAM drop in speed limitation is when trying to run 4 sticks it will not effect you when running only two.

As to the 2.3v ram being okay... that is a mistake on my end. For phenom 1 arch there was concerns about running over 2.0v damaging the IMC. It has been a while since I have run a DDR2 machine so memory failed me. (It should be noted, many ran 2.2v on their phen ones and had no problems as well).

Generally when you have a CPU with an IMC, lower voltage memory is better.

Oh I looked up my ram I had the PC2-8500 kit of blades. (1066 and was 1.85 at 1000 4-4-4)
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