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Yes I am able to get into bios, and yes i had already restored defaults.

I've already checked the boot order and I keep checking it, and i've even forced the boot order a few times to my windows install regardless the order I had them in. Right now order is DVD/windows HD/USB/blank HD.

The IDE point is good to bring up I hadn't thought of that. Embarrassing to say, but I actually can't remember what i installed my system as whether being IDE or AHCI. I'm about 90% sure it was IDE. It was set to AHCI. So that probably means I will have to reinstall windows right? Because I've heard you can't switch the setup after it's been installed or else you will mess things up and have to install a fresh copy. Although if the drivers for IDE/AHCI is already installed on the device switching back to the setting that it was set to, in my case probably IDE, it should boot right? Neither setting would boot.

I was able to boot into free dos mode via the asus original CD. Once there i switched to my USB device and was finally able to boot from the usb into the bios dos updater tool. Once there i navigated to my old rom file and tried to install it.

As said here a few posts back...



I cannot revert back because the bios will not allow you to roll back to an older bios now! See the screenshot i took of what it looks like when you try to do it. If you take a second to look to the top left of the screen you will see what bios it currently recognizes, which is the 2001 i installed. So it clearly knows that 2001 is there and running so that would leave me to believe that it definitely isn't corrupted or wasn't corrupted during my flashing process last night.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1053401/pc/bios.jpg

A thought to maybe trying to install windows 7 on my second HD and trying to boot from that install to see what happens? Or does anyone think that's just a waste of time.

I called ASUS support, after being hung up on 3 times, I finally got what appeared to be someone on the other end. He was speaking fast and repeating himself twice saying there are currently no technicians around (i think he said call back in a few hours). When I said hello ... hello ... the line was quite, but the line was still connected. It was like they were on the other end listening to me, but not responding!?
Honestly, I have been able to get into windows even if it was set to IDE and switched to AHCI. This was possible because windows 7 was able to install the drivers (IDE) as well as maintain the AHCI drivers as "disconnected" drives. If you have a RAID or SSD, put it in AHCI. I'm betting you normally had it in IDE and windows isn't playing nice by installing the AHCI drivers. You can always try both, I don't even think you can harm anything by trying this.
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Where are you seeing the Unconfigured tag? On the initial AMI BIOS screen that flashes up when you first power on? This tends to coroborate that the HDD/SATA controller may not be in the right mode (IDE, ACHI, RAID). Your not seeing the Intel RAID ROM are you? 'cause you shouldn't.
This is exactly why I am starting to think that this is just an IDE/AHCI issue. Also as The Mac stated, make sure you have your SATA options set to hot plugging. P67 is really fussy that way. Unconfigured is indeed a RAID term, which would pop up if you are set in AHCI (the default state for this motherboard) and the BIOS sees two drives that haven't been configured as a RAID. Note: I had installed windows in AHCI mode, this might be the difference.

Hope we can get this ironed out.
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AHCI mode should BSOD windows boot if the drivers weren't installed initially, which leads me to believe xandypx and haf_wit are probably correct, and its trying to boot up in raid mode.

assuming youve already turned on hotplug for all your ports, try turning on the Oproms for the marvell, and Intel and see if you get any additional messages.
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Honestly, I have been able to get into windows even if it was set to IDE and switched to AHCI. This was possible because windows 7 was able to install the drivers (IDE) as well as maintain the AHCI drivers as "disconnected" drives. If you have a RAID or SSD, put it in AHCI. I'm betting you normally had it in IDE and windows isn't playing nice by installing the AHCI drivers. You can always try both, I don't even think you can harm anything by trying this.


This is exactly why I am starting to think that this is just an IDE/AHCI issue. Also as The Mac stated, make sure you have your SATA options set to hot plugging. P67 is really fussy that way. Unconfigured is indeed a RAID term, which would pop up if you are set in AHCI (the default state for this motherboard) and the BIOS sees two drives that haven't been configured as a RAID. Note: I had installed windows in AHCI mode, this might be the difference.

Hope we can get this ironed out.
The hot plug has be stumped. I can not find where this option is in the bios. hot plugging is something i'm not familiar with, although i know it has something to do with being able to pull the hard drive plugs while the system is on.

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Where are you seeing the Unconfigured tag? On the initial AMI BIOS screen that flashes up when you first power on? This tends to coroborate that the HDD/SATA controller may not be in the right mode (IDE, ACHI, RAID). Your not seeing the Intel RAID ROM are you? 'cause you shouldn't.
I see it on the first screen after hitting the power button. It's actually the only screen i ever see in my post process. It's odd that it would say that if i was in the wrong mode being as I've set it in IDE and made sure it was booting in IDE mode for the majority of this AE error.

Some other things I'm noticing that's beginning to make me think somehow my windows now has corrupted boot files. When i put the windows 7 dvd in and boot from it the the AE error goes away and i get the normal AA message. When i go to the cd to do a system restore point to recover and bad boot files i get an error that says "Windows cannot find a system image on this computer" Something is wrong where the bios is not recognizing the HDs anymore and I think this is my problem?

I've switched my HD ports around and that didn't work, in fact it couldn't recognize any physical drives at all.

Here is a picture of my sata menu in the bios. I assume those not present items should be present with my 2 HDs.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1053401/pc/biosSata.jpg

I'm also now seeing more boot drives in my bios ... this is weird. It seems to have duplicated my DVD drive? And what is that extra boot drive it added with the antenna?
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1053401/pc/biosEZ.jpg

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AHCI mode should BSOD windows boot if the drivers weren't installed initially, which leads me to believe xandypx and haf_wit are probably correct, and its trying to boot up in raid mode.

assuming youve already turned on hotplug for all your ports, try turning on the Oproms for the marvell, and Intel and see if you get any additional messages.
The marvel was already on but the intel oprom was off and i enabled it.
Still getting the AE boot error.
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Your first picture is pretty telling. Your HDDs are not there. The only connected drive is your lite-On Optical drive. you have a bigger problem than worrying about the HDD not being configured, the UEFI does not see your HDDs connected. once it sees them, I'm pretty sure it will realize that they are.

Disconnect your optical drive and take your primary HDD and connect it to your SATA6G_1 connector (where your Lite-On drive is connected now), and attempt a reboot

To double check your SATA cables, use the SATA cable that is attached to the optical drive by disconnecting it from the optical drive and attach it to the HDD. I would use the power adapter from the optical also. Are you sure that the power and SATA cables are tightly attached to the HDD?

the extra info you provided helped me confirm that the problem is that the EUFI can't find the windows 7 BCD partition. This 100MB "system" partition contains the data required to locate the OS. Since the HDDs don't appear to the UEFI, the BCD is misssing, and the install disk can't be told where the OS is.
Edited by xandypx - 10/15/11 at 2:58pm
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Your first picture is pretty telling. Your HDDs are not there. The only connected drive is your lite-On Optical drive. you have a bigger problem than worrying about the HDD not being configured, the UEFI does not see your HDDs connected. once it sees them, I'm pretty sure it will realize that they are.

Disconnect your optical drive and take your primary HDD and connect it to your SATA6G_1 connector (where your Lite-On drive is connected now), and attempt a reboot

To double check your SATA cables, use the SATA cable that is attached to the optical drive by disconnecting it from the optical drive and attach it to the HDD. I would use the power adapter from the optical also. Are you sure that the power and SATA cables are tightly attached to the HDD?

the extra info you provided helped me confirm that the problem is that the EUFI can't find the windows 7 BCD partition. This 100MB "system" partition contains the data required to locate the OS. Since the HDDs don't appear to the UEFI, the BCD is misssing, and the install disk can't be told where the OS is.
The HDs were initially in the marvel connectors (this is a b3 board). I switched them to the intel connectors and now the bios seems to see them. However i still get no boot.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1053401/pc/biosSata2.jpg

Something new I'm noticing. During post i get message "No physical disk detected!"

And before it goes to the blank black screen with the cursor i get a b2 error(legacy option ROM initialization) and the light just above my mobo battery (the boot device LED) lights up.

Another thing i noticed when i boot with windows cd on this different plug setup and i try to go to a do a system restore from the disk. I get an error that says "This version of system recovery options is not compatible with the version of windows you are trying to repair. Try using a recovery disc that is compatible with this version of windows.
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Unless I'm mistaken the "no physical disk" is from you turning on the marvel ports with nothing attached to them, they like to check and have like a splash for them every boot.
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Interesting.. we are almost there.

the no physical disk message is from your marvel controller OP ROM, you've disconnected the drives.

Ok, so it is coming down to getting the UEFI to locate the win 7 System partition, apparantly the windows 7 install disk has found it and located the OS. I'm taking a guess that the message you got from the repair utility was due to you having updated to win7 SP1, and the disk is SP... well none. XP had this problem after SP1, and again, I'm just guessing it's the same thing.

Which drive contains your OS? Were both connected when you initially installed win7? This is important to know for the troubleshooting steps.

First:

Go into the boot device priority screen of the UEFI, and disable all potential boot (optical, USB, removeable, network etc...) devices except for the HDD(s). This will help in resolving your problem, and minimize any delay the UEFI takes in looking for boot devices.

Look specifically into the HDD sub menu in the UEFI to ensure that both HD drives are included in the Hard disk boot priority menu, and the one that you believe contains your OS the first of the two HDDs.

make and save these changes in the UEFI, boot, and post back the results.
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Interesting.. we are almost there.

the no physical disk message is from your marvel controller OP ROM, you've disconnected the drives.

Ok, so it is coming down to getting the UEFI to locate the win 7 System partition, apparantly the windows 7 install disk has found it and located the OS. I'm taking a guess that the message you got from the repair utility was due to you having updated to win7 SP1, and the disk is SP... well none. XP had this problem after SP1, and again, I'm just guessing it's the same thing.

Which drive contains your OS? Were both connected when you initially installed win7? This is important to know for the troubleshooting steps.

First:

Go into the boot device priority screen of the UEFI, and disable all potential boot (optical, USB, removeable, network etc...) devices except for the HDD(s). This will help in resolving your problem, and minimize any delay the UEFI takes in looking for boot devices.

Look specifically into the HDD sub menu in the UEFI to ensure that both HD drives are included in the Hard disk boot priority menu, and the one that you believe contains your OS the first of the two HDDs.

make and save these changes in the UEFI, boot, and post back the results.
My install disk actually says it includes SP1. So i'm not sure on that one. I could use the repair tool early this morning. Actually a few posts back i mentioned i had used it once, but i didn't use the system restore tool. Now i can't use either one.

Win7 is installed on my 1TB drive. The good thing about this build is it's only about a month old and i don't have any stuff on the drives that i NEED to get off, but it certainly would be time consuming to get everything back on them again. They both were connected when i installed them. I installed it on my 1TB and then formatted the 500gb in device manager after windows was installed because it would not recognize my drive without it being formatted.

I'm still confused why i'm seeing the IBA GE Slot 00C8 v1365 boot device added to my bios with a weird antenna icon after i enabled the intel oprom in the bios. Any idea what that is?

In my boot manager menu in the bios i'm now seeing all of these options to boot to (i don't understand why there is now so many options and why it has my dvd rom listed twice?)...
windows boot manager
SATA: WDC WD1002FAEX-00Z3A0 (1tb windows install drive)
SATA: WDC WD5000AAKS-00YGA0 (500gb)
SATA: ATAPI iHAS124 B (dvd rom)
IBA GE Slot 00C8 v1365
UEFI: SATA: ATAPI iHAS124 B (dvd rom)

I turned off all boot options so just the hard drives are there. I got a weird initializing setup post screen menu, and then the blank screen again and the windows logo, and now it's going into windows!

wowzers you're a magician lol.

So what does this mean? The marvel connectors are bad? I can't use the other devices as boot options?
Edited by rohicks - 10/15/11 at 3:57pm
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After you are in windows, turn the computer off, restart, go into the UEFI and reenable all of the settings that you want. make sure the HDDs stay in the boot priority as the 1st boot device.

If after doing this, the computer fails to boot, all you will need to do is go into the HDD sub menu, and swap the 1st and 2nd HDDs in the HDD priority list.

the UEFI just needed to know that the HDDs were off the marvel controller and on the Intel controller. If I had thought of it sooner (I just thought of it now), I bet the Marvel controller is actually in AHCI mode rather than IDE. It resets during a BIOS update.

This only shows up in the Marvel OP ROM by hitting <ctl> M during POST. The settings you see in the UEFI are only for the Intel controller.

Glad you're up and running.

EDIT: Note on the optical drive showing twice.

If you note, they are labeled differently... not important yet, but in the future.... all kinds of things will be possible.

For lack of a better way to explain it (or actually to make it easily understood without a long drawn out explanation), the UEFI is actually a self contained mini operating system. Wait till you see the things that it will do in the future. Need email? Want to check in on OCN? Why boot the whole computer when you only need to enter the UEFI.

Your second entry for the optical is listed as a UEFI device. UEFI boots (a type of boot configuration, currently used for boot devices larger than 2.2TB and drives formatted as GPT, rather than MBR) boots using software services that are incorporated into the UEFI itself. A UEFI configured boot stores driver files that allows the UEFI to utilize hardware that would typically not work unless the OS was loaded providing the drivers for the hardware to function. Your second entry is just that, a functioning DVD drive that can work with only the UEFI loaded. Now some software developer just needs to write software that will allow it to say... play a DVD from in the UEFI, without loading Windows.

Also, the IBA GE Slot 00C8 v1365 is the network card on the Mobo, and is used for booting/upgrading from across a network. this should also answer the question you asked earlier. Why a network icon shows as a boot device on the "Basic" UEFI screen.

Edited by xandypx - 10/15/11 at 4:54pm
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So should i change to using AHCI all together so that i can actually use the marvel controllers if i get more HDs later down the road?

Windows is consistently booting for me.
Thanks for all your help it's appreciated.

With that being said i'm still curious as to why it's seeing my dvd rom twice and it added that IBA boot device and what it actually is? I think it has something to do with intel connectors.

Now maybe you or Haf_wit can help me out on the memory issue.
As i said i'm running corsair ddr3 vengeance 1600 4x4gb.

Now the manual has nothing listed for 16gb of memory and i try to over clock my system i get memory errors and dual boots. Then it resets it's self back to default bios. Is there a way around this to over clock my system and run the memory i have or will i have to remove two sticks and run 8gb to over clock at all. Or will i have to buy new memory all together to over clock and not be able to run 16gb. My point is i'd like to over clock my system to 4.2ghz (which i had it to on my MSI board previous to this one) and still run 16gb of memory. Earlier there was meniton about changing my voltage on the memory, but i have not dealt with tweaking my memory in bios before specially the voltage ratings. I'd rather not mess anything up with that if i don't know what i'm doing. i just know how to change my ram timings and the operating speed (to which it's running at 1333 in auto mode). I have been manually changing it to 1600, but someone said i should keep at it's native rate?
Edited by rohicks - 10/15/11 at 4:51pm
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Intel i7 2600k 3.4ghz Sandy Bridge Asus p8p67 Deluxe AMD 6970 Corsair Vengeance DDR3 1600 16gb 
Hard DriveOSMonitorPower
WD 1TB 7200RPM, WD 500GB 7200RPM Windows 7 Pro Dell Ultrasharp IPS 24" Corsair 750tx 
Case
Antec 1200 v3 
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Intel i7 2600k 3.4ghz Sandy Bridge Asus p8p67 Deluxe AMD 6970 Corsair Vengeance DDR3 1600 16gb 
Hard DriveOSMonitorPower
WD 1TB 7200RPM, WD 500GB 7200RPM Windows 7 Pro Dell Ultrasharp IPS 24" Corsair 750tx 
Case
Antec 1200 v3 
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