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He is talking about the offset voltage bug.
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I dunno about the offset voltage bug since I don't use that mode but I have problems with Rams.

Sometimes, cold boot will render the rams unstable. No settings change but it won't run stable tested with memtest. I raise ram voltage, vccio, reduce ram speed, loose timings, it errors on memtest. Voltage seems to help a bit but it only makes it error not at %6 but %44 on memtest.

Then I set advertised timing, speed and voltage, I unplug 1 stick, test memtest and it has no problems, then I plug the stick back then it's stable too. However once in awhile I turn the computer off overnight, it has problems in the morning again.

Some kinda coldboot problem.
Edited by Catscratch - 2/10/12 at 3:09am
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i don't use offset (why bother when i get 4.8ghz on auto), so i suppose i wouldn't see that, although it could have something to do with vdroop.....actual vs measured...

As far as the rams go, unplug at the wall, or rocker switch on the power supply for 10 seconds and reboot, that always fixes the "Overclock failed" message for me.
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i don't use offset (why bother when i get 4.8ghz on auto), so i suppose i wouldn't see that, although it could have something to do with vdroop.....actual vs measured...

As far as the rams go, unplug at the wall, or rocker switch on the power supply for 10 seconds and reboot, that always fixes the "Overclock failed" message for me.

 


Why bother when you get 4.8 on Auto?

 

Because if you were to adjust your offset yourself, your VRM would be under less load, your Vcore would be lower, your system would run cooler, last longer, and potentially OC to 4.9 or 5.0 on the same voltages that "Auto" gives you on 4.8 GHz.

 

You might also be able to reduce the amount of LLC in your OC, which would drastically reduce VRM load and temperatures as well as increase Flop/s for a given frequency significantly.

 

Just sayin'   :)

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i don't use offset (why bother when i get 4.8ghz on auto), so i suppose i wouldn't see that, although it could have something to do with vdroop.....actual vs measured...


As far as the rams go, unplug at the wall, or rocker switch on the power supply for 10 seconds and reboot, that always fixes the "Overclock failed" message for me.


 


Why bother when you get 4.8 on Auto?

Because if you were to adjust your offset yourself, your VRM would be under less load, your Vcore would be lower, your system would run cooler, last longer, and potentially OC to 4.9 or 5.0 on the same voltages that "Auto" gives you on 4.8 GHz.

You might also be able to reduce the amount of LLC in your OC, which would drastically reduce VRM load and temperatures as well as increase Flop/s for a given frequency significantly.

Just sayin'   smile.gif

OCing has gotten far too easy for those who don't want to delve into the nitty gritty... no challenge anymore. Push a button or two, and I'm OC'd at 4.8...thumb.gif
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OCing has gotten far too easy for those who don't want to delve into the nitty gritty... no challenge anymore. Push a button or two, and I'm OC'd at 4.8...thumb.gif



Yeah, when I first got my PC built I installed Asus AI Suite II. (Don't do it! You'll hate it, it's bloated, and the uninstall leaves pieces behind everywhere!) Anyhow, I installed the AI Suite and accidentally hit the automatic overclock button. I got a serious laugh when my PC cycled the screen a few times and then said "System Level Up!"

 

I then went back into the BIOS, and started from scratch, got the exact same OC that the automated tuner gave me, at 0.040 less core volts. (No joke.) My latest setup (the same frequency) is a further 0.020 volts lower than that previous one and it was still ridiculously easy to overclock it!

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why offset mode ? really ?rolleyes.gif
    
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why offset mode ? really ?rolleyes.gif

 

If that's a troll comment, then I guess you hooked me.

 

If that's a serious comment:
 

The alternative is staying at 4.7, 4.8, 4.9, or 5.0 GHz and at 1.336, 1.348, 1.406, or 1.418V on the core 24/7 even when my PC is only being used for web browsing much of the time. Why waste all of that electrical power, produce that much heat, and pump that much voltage to the core when it's not needed?

 

I like the idea that each of my four cores can idle at 1.6 GHz and clock up to 4.7 GHz on demand. I like the idea that my CPU is only drawing 8 W of power until I need it, and then it can draw much more and that I don't lose any performance at the high end by doing so.

 

With these CPUs being so easy to overclock and tune, why not offset with Intel Enhanced Speedstep?

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I think you are all taking my comment out of context.

I've done all that stuff, offset, VRM, etc...and understand it intimately..

In the end it wasn't worth it for the extra 200mhz, or a savings of a few watts every time i update my bios, when it runs stable at 4.8 on auto.

my games arent going to run significantly faster with the extra 200mhz, so to me its not worth the aggravation...

In the old days (last gen...lol), it was worth the micro-managing to squeeze a few extra mhz out of the proc, but my 2500K is more power than i currently know what to do with at 4.8ghz.
Edited by The Mac - 2/11/12 at 5:35pm
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I am wondering what are these 3 pins x.x I cant seem to find info on them on the manual or anywhere
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