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I've been lurking here for a while trying to figure out my first build, unfortunately its tougher than I thought. Hopefully the overclock hivemind will lead me toward the correct build.
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Welcome to OCN. What type of build are you looking for? We can help point you in the right direction. What do you want to do with your PC, and what kind of budget are you thinking?
    
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I'm going for a gaming build at around $1k. I've read that the Phenom x4 series is pretty good value for gaming so I had my eye on a 965 BE. And the MSi N460GTX HAWK just because of the cooling. I had been thinking about the MSi 790FX-GD70 as my mobo but I'm not so sure right now.
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Is that $1000 budget just for the tower, or does that include keyboard, monitor, mouse, speakers, etc? The Phenom II X4 and X6 stuff would probably be fine for gaming. However, Intel will generally outperform the AMD chips, clock for clock. Also, intel just launched their new line of CPUs that look to be awesome performers. Sandy Bridge is the code name for the new chips. I would also consider them as well.

For a gaming build you will want a decent CPU, but it doesn't have to be a monster CPU. It just has to be good enough that it doesn't hold back your graphics card(s). If it comes down to getting a slightly better CPU or a better graphics card, you will want to get a better graphics card. You will see the most benefit from it. Right now, an NVIDIA GTX570 is about $350 and will be an excellent performer. ATI also has their HD6950 & HD6970 cards that are around that same price range and perform pretty close to the GTX570.

The GTX460 that you mentioned would be a good card for gaming, but you may be able to get more card out of your budget then that. Also, that motherboard you listed doesn't appear to support SLI, just crossfire (according to newegg). Crossfire is for ATI cards, and SLI is for NVIDIA. Many Intel board support both crossfire and SLI, giving you more freedom when selecting video cards if you are planning on running multiple cards now or in the future.
    
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Thanks for the feedback. The thousand dollars is for the tower. I was only considering AMD because of the price, but I'm leaning toward the i5-2500k now. I'll probably go with the 6950 too but I'm not sure if I'll need all of that for StarCraft 2. Now to just wait for the LGA 1155 mobo reviews to come in. Also any estimates on the wattage I should be looking at? The calculators have been saying 450w~ but that can't be right.
Edited by BPA - 1/9/11 at 2:04am
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I know the prices have varied a bit, but I remember putting together a good tower with 900-1000 that included i7, gtx460 (although with deals and stuff sometimes the 465 and 470 are cheap too), 6 gig ram kit, lian li case, corsair 700W psu, and a gigabyte mobo. If you look around you can find deals, especially in our own deal section and then look around and maybe ask people for help, i personally would go with intel and nvidia instead of amd and ati
   
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Thanks for the feedback. The thousand dollars is for the tower. I was only considering AMD because of the price, but I'm leaning toward the i5-2500k now. I'll probably go with the 6950 too but I'm not sure if I'll need all of that for StarCraft 2. Now to just wait for the LGA 1155 mobo reviews to come in. Also any estimates on the wattage I should be looking at? The calculators have been saying 450w~ but that can't be right.
If all your going to play is star craft 2, then that is probably more graphics card then you need. However, if you think you might want to play any of the newer big ticket games, especially first person shooters, you are going to want the power. I'm of the mindset that getting more then you need now will make your system last longer before needing an upgrade, so you may want to take that into consideration.

As far as a power supply goes, you probably would be safe running that setup on a 500W power supply. If you wanted some headroom to add another graphics card down the road, I would recommend going higher. The biggest thing about power supplies is to read up and get a good quality unit. If a power supply dies, it can take other components with it. Even if a power supply doesn't die, you can still have performance issues if it isn't giving good quality power to the components.

Also, most of today's graphics cards require two PCIe power connectors, so you will need to make sure that you have that in a power supply. The 6950 requires two 6 pin power connectors. You probably would be fine with something like an Antec Earthwatts 650W power supply (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817371015), but for a little bit more, corsair makes some great power supplies that offer some more advantages over the Antec unit. The Corsair TX650 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817139005) has 2 more SATA connectors and 2 more molex (peripheral) connectors. And their warranty is 5 years instead of 3 years. The TX750 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817139006) is basically the same as the TX650 except it has two more PCIe connectors allowing you to run a second graphics card at some point in the future if you decide to. Also, the Corsair power supplies offer a single 12v rail versus 3 with the Antec. A single rail is generally better, so Corsair has an advantage there.

Sometimes picking a power supply can be the hardest part of the build, at least for me. The main things to look out for are getting a good quality unit Corsair, SeaSonic, Antec, and PC Power & Cooling are some generally good brands that come to the top of my head. There are other good units out there too, but these are generally considered some of the better brands. After that, look to make sure that there are enough connectors for everything, and make sure that the 12v rail has enough amperage to supply power to everything. Take a look here (http://www.hardocp.com/reviews/psu_power_supplies/) for a lot of good power supply reviews. You should be able to find the power supply you are considering and read up on it. I hope this helps.
    
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I've put together a build with the i5-2500K and a 6950 on newegg. I've attached a pdf file of the build with this post. It comes in at $1054.92 without an operating system. I did have to make some concessions when it came to this build to try and fit at the $1000 mark. Notably, the motherboard does support SLI/Crossfire, but the power supply doesn't because it doesn't have enough connectors. That's not a big deal for now, but it is something to remember for the future should you ever want to upgrade to a second video card.

It seems that most P67 motherboard start at about $150 in price, so it will be hard to save money on that end. If you go down to an H67 motherboard, you would be looking at a starting price around $100, but you loose a lot of features that way. You may be able to save a little on the memory, but at $90, the memory in the build is still fairly inexpensive compared to other DDR3 memory. You would have to drop the speed down to save on memory, and then you are only looking at maybe $40 or so in savings.

While there are areas to save on this sandy bridge build, there isn't a whole lot of flexibility because everything is so new still. Remember, if you don't already have a full license of an operating system to install, you will need to get one. Newegg sells OEM licenses of Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit for $99.99.
    
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post #9 of 12
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Thanks for the build, I actually had selected the a lot of the other stuff the same already, although I was not aware of DDR3 1866. And I've read SLI scales better than crossfire at 1920x1080 so I'm gonna take chinese's advice and go nvidia (probably the GTX 470).

Probably gonna order everything at the end of this month, just to give myself time to sift through all the P67 mobo reviews first. Is it wise to buy value when it comes to motherboards? Or should I get something highend?
Edited by BPA - 1/9/11 at 7:12pm
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I personally am a nvidia fan over ATI. I am running 2 nvidia 8800gts graphics cards in sli and they have been great. I'm going to be getting a gtx 570 myself within the next month. In your case, I think the gtx 470 will be a great card and will fit in your budget better.

As for motherboards, you will probably want to get a quality unit
However, quality doesn't have to mean expensive. There are plenty of lesser expensive motherboards that have great quality. Once the reviews start coming out for the P67 stuff, you will see what quality motherboards are available for your budget. If you are thinking of going with SLI or Crossfire, just make sure the motherboard you get supports it.
    
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