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Oh look at these tank tracks.... they stop right there and then nothing...OH CRAP!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Z Naught View Post
If this is true, why are there so many cases when the military puts many more lives and military hardware in danger to rescue a downed pilot or equivalent?
Because pilots are not expendable. Your grunt ass is.


Sorry, about the grunt comment, just seemed appropriate


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Originally Posted by dontpwnmebro View Post
electric motors wont cut it for a tank. they work pretty well though for those funny looking, miniature electric cars though
How is it then that a submarine can run for hours on battery power. Sometimes days. This was WWII era too.
Edited by theCanadian - 1/9/11 at 1:43pm
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it would still show up on infrared
    
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Originally Posted by dontpwnmebro View Post
electric motors wont cut it for a tank. they work pretty well though for those funny looking, miniature electric cars though
They already have hybrid tanks... soooo fail?

Good to see people being positive about the possibility of advancement in the field.(obviously sarcasm)

Not to mention people have been working on methods of tricking thermal imaging for quite a while now.

To repeat quite a few others, NOT MEANT FOR CLOSE QUARTERS a little dust and mud isn't going to be noticed from a distance.

Too many troll responses for me to continue lol.

Oh but enjoyed the ghost in the shell picture made me lol.
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post #65 of 111
We will never have the technology to have completely invisible tanks. If we did, you still wouldn't know, because they are invisible.
Edited by cl04k3d - 1/9/11 at 2:25pm
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post #66 of 111
They cannot hide the IR heat plume from the engine with optical cammo.
Tricking IR sensors can only be done with flares (and it depends on the wave length), so that would negate visual cammo.
Edited by Obakemono - 1/9/11 at 2:30pm
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post #67 of 111
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Originally Posted by fabrizziop View Post
Yep, I was thinking the same thing. Maybe it works fine for aerial views and things in that perspective, but with soldiers, they will see the tank easily, it will appear to be "painted" of mountains.
I don't think you guys are considering how tank battles are usually fought (afaik). Long distance, first one that sees/kersplodes the other, wins. This camouflage would buy the tank some very valuable time while the opponent scans the distant treeline.... and then BAM.
post #68 of 111
Quote:
Originally Posted by cl04k3d View Post
This would only be cool if the tank was silent and made no noise from moving around.
Again, it's main role would probably be overwatch and for other types of vehicles. Besides, when it is far enough away sound doesn't exactly pinpoint it.

Quote:
Originally Posted by dontpwnmebro View Post
electric motors wont cut it for a tank. they work pretty well though for those funny looking, miniature electric cars though
http://content.usatoday.com/communit...l-cell-tanks/1


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Originally Posted by Darkapoc View Post
They already have hybrid tanks... soooo fail?

Good to see people being positive about the possibility of advancement in the field.(obviously sarcasm)

Not to mention people have been working on methods of tricking thermal imaging for quite a while now.

To repeat quite a few others, NOT MEANT FOR CLOSE QUARTERS a little dust and mud isn't going to be noticed from a distance.

Too many troll responses for me to continue lol.

Oh but enjoyed the ghost in the shell picture made me lol.
http://content.usatoday.com/communit...l-cell-tanks/1
You are correct. I don't think anyone has "hybrid" tanks deployed though. Hydrogen isn't really hybrid, but same idea.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Obakemono View Post
They cannot hide the IR heat plume from the engine with optical cammo.
Tricking IR sensors can only be done with flares (and it depends on the wave length), so that would negate visual cammo.
Implying all enemies have thermals.
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Originally Posted by Soggy_Popcorn View Post
I don't think you guys are considering how tank battles are usually fought (afaik). Long distance, first one that sees/kersplodes the other, wins. This camouflage would buy the tank some very valuable time while the opponent scans the distant treeline.... and then BAM.
Depends upon the technology the opponent has. If they have thermals it would be pointless of course, but in a battle where the enemies lack thermals or are very limited in their use it would be extremely effective.
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post #69 of 111
even in the US military not every soldier has a thermal imager. So while a thermal imager may pick it out quickly the average soldier probably wouldn't have it and may miss it while scanning with binoculars.

This could be good for overwatch and scouting missions with small vehicles. I don't think that the entire fleet of main battle tanks will get this. They probably chose that due to the fact it is very prominent. An active cammo hummvee would be more fitting.

I think it would be great for tents and artillery emplacements as well. They generate a far smaller ir signature as well. This would work well for flyover cammo and such.
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Useful for covert ops, useless in an all-out war.
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