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post #51 of 130
WOW! looks soo much high tech than the US stealth planes... not really.
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post #52 of 130
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Originally Posted by CiX View Post
Made In China....
    
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post #53 of 130
so everything is made in China too XD

plz don't hate on us, hate the Koreans
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post #54 of 130
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Originally Posted by Komder View Post
Chinese peasant lives out of a bowl of rice a day...US peasant doesn't...a big difference...

I think you get my point.

Fixed

"Chinese peasant lives out of a bowl of rice a day...US peasant should probably give it a go, have you seen how slim Chinese people are?...a big difference...

I think you get my point
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post #55 of 130
No wonder the Chinese thinks Americans are dumb. Even the Secretary of Defense asks the dumbest questions, like, "why do you need aircraft carriers and stealth fighters and what are it's purposes?" response: "You (US) have so many we have none atm, what is your purpose?"

I LoL'ed so hard.
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post #56 of 130
The US has the most military for the exact same reason that Great Britain used to have the largest Navy. It's called gunboat diplomacy, though the US would probably deny that....


..... "it's for the good of the free world, don't you know"...
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post #57 of 130
Actually based on troop numbers I believe (though I'd have to check, and I won't) that Iran has the largest military because of the paramilitary force called something like the Basra (morals police) that figures into the total, plus reserves...just looking at active military numbers I think you are right though...

EDIT: here's the real list (list of countries by level of military equipment) and the US leads in just about every category. (total world annual defense budget: 1531 billion, total US: 663 billion, next: 98 billion)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...tary_equipment
Edited by jadawgis732 - 1/23/11 at 10:24pm
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post #58 of 130
Quote:
Originally Posted by jadawgis732 View Post
total world annual defense budget: 1531 billion, total US: 663 billion, next: 98 billion
Budget is a pointless measure though - when it costs 10x more to have it made in America compared to some shed in China.

Also, the majority of those stats are for sea/ocean based things - and they are only needed if you are going to go attack someone (ie. like for oil ) - not needed for defence TBH.

When it comes to defence all you need is a large ground force and nukes as a final deterrent.

Also, in this day and age, it is suicide for any Country to even consider invading any other country if they have nukes. So no matter how much you loath a country, think long and hard before invading them if they have nukes - because it will ultimately be the end of both Countries and a large number of allied Countries as well.


EDIT: What will eventually happen on Earth, is exactly what happens in the last 30 minutes of risk lol - the more powerful countries (ie. those with nukes) will rush to take over as many of the weaker countries (ie. those without nukes) as possible
Edited by un-nefer - 1/24/11 at 9:30pm
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post #59 of 130
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I guess that people are missing the point...no one said that China is able to challenge the US power now...however in 20 years the situation is going to be very very different...
No it won't.



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Since 1980 China's economy is experiencing above 10% econ growth (beside 1989 and 1990 due to the Tiananmen Square)...
No it hasn't.

http://www.google.com/publicdata?ds=...ese+gdp+growth

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since 1990 China's military budget tripled from 30 to 100 billion $
Also wrong.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:PL..._1999-2008.GIF


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...and that only 2% their GDP per year...US is giving 4% to military...
Wrong.
Too lazy for a source this time, but U.S. Military budget is ~5% of GDP - About 1.2T. That's $1,200,000,000,000.


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J20 will be 2-3 times cheaper that F22...
Pure speculation and conjecture.

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even though it will not be as good as Raptor the sheer number of J22s will be impossible to handle
Further conjecture. Particularly given that the Raptor will have had, at the time this jet comes out, between three and four decades of platform maturity and the United States will be ten to twenty years away from the 6th Generation replacement. [Too lazy for source, but it's true. Look it up.]

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As far as I know there were 187 Raptors built due to the lack of funding. One crashed last year in Alaska leaving 186 Raptors.
Incorrect. With the crash of the USSR, there was no need to build the full fleet. Much like the B-2, Seawolf fiasco. Though they were both, I admit, more influenced by cost than the raptor was. Either way, that's 186 more 5th Generation fighters than anyone else.

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Quality is not always better than quantity And the next few decades are going to be very interesting for the US, and the whole world...
Not always, but that has yet to be proven in this case. And any answer you give would be pure conjecture.

I agree about interesting though. DEW Weapons + Railguns + the new Interim bomber + 6th Gen Fighter, etc. I'm excited. :]

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A plane is only stealth untill proven otherwise in a war, such as the F117.
Just wanted to point out, the F117 was, and still is pretty stealthy. The reason for the shoot down was OUTSTANDING laziness and lack of proper protocol on part of the USAF. Repeatedly flying the same airspace, same route, same time, same altitude for weeks.. It required a bit of luck to hit the plane, but they were asking for it.
    
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I didn't read through all 5+ pages but...it sure does look like the F-22. China's inability to have drastically unique ideas is proof their country still has a long way to go. They have the 'capacity' to be a super power, but no capability to do so on their own.
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