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I do not think you are...but your terminology wreaks of an Intel rep. Intel Insider is hardware DRM. It's that simple.

Lipstick on a pig...it's still a pig.
Please at least read my first post completely before commenting. This feature does not even work if you have an H67 motherboard. Do you think it will interfere with files on your PC? Also desktop processors do NOT have Killswitch. So your theory about Intel turning off your processor if you pirate was just rubbish. Why are you still persuaded to mislead people?

It's just there to allow safe streaming of data. You can disable it, you can choose to not use it, it will not interfere with your files. Choose to call it whatever you want, but it won't make it true.

Also, I'm just using the correct terminology. Do you think if I call Hyperthreading, Hyperthreading that makes me an Intel rep? or if I call an Intel Core i7, an Intel Core i7?
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I never said you were BigCactus. Second, why do you even care that SBs supports vPro. You have an AMD platform. You post here like you care so much. Also killswitches have been around for all ages, why do you care all of a sudden and not for the past decade when it was introduced? Is it because your six core 1090T is significantly slower than a quad core i5 2500k and you somehow feel insecure so you need to attack Intel?

PS, I'm not assuming, I'm just asking questions why you care so much about a platform you will probably never own.
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Gaining security knowledge is not a bad thing and if it helps users to understand exposures and risks - It is called security awareness

Please do not imply facts that are inaccurate. For example, I happen to own ,or have owned, or responsible for quite a few Intel processors dating back before Slot 1s, plus currently a couple of 950s, a few 980s and a bunch in between. Owned or worked with a large number of Fairchild, Motorola, National Semiconductor, Rockwell, TI, Zilog and other chips you have never heard of or will every see in consumer computers/electronics. Some are faster, some are slower than the 1090 process in my sig. I might even own 1 or 2 2600Ks.

I care about Info Security - Specific vendor hardware does not matter to me. Processors are useful tools to get things done nothing more, nothing less. You provided a mechanism to discuss potential concerns and talk a little bit about security. Hopefully, you learned a little bit.
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intel insider is stupid. good thing AMD and NVIDIA haven't follow this trend. although i suspect they will do so soon.
frikin' intel, finding ways to force us to use their crappy iGPU.
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intel insider is stupid. good thing AMD and NVIDIA haven't follow this trend. although i suspect they will do so soon.
frikin' intel, finding ways to force us to use their crappy iGPU.
Well their Integrated GPUs are actually incredibly good (not for us hardcore gamers of course) and they are intended for people who do light gaming, and just everyday computer use (browsing, watching HD movies, etc.)... hence, a huge portion of the population.

The Sandy Bridge processors released are for mainstream purposes (a.k.a for the average people) and so they have these Integrated graphics. The enthusiast/extreme processors will not have these, and also no insider. Those extreme processors are marketed for people like us.

I also suggest that you read more carefully at what Insider does; let's you watch HD movies from specific locations. Nothing else. nVidia and AMD will also come with similar technologies soon. Actually, nVidia has DRM protection already.
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So not I can turn off my processer when it is stolen. This helps nothing at all since the computer will already be stolen when I turn it on and the computer not working will not improve my chances of getting it back at all! Completely useless.
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So not I can turn off my processer when it is stolen. This helps nothing at all since the computer will already be stolen when I turn it on and the computer not working will not improve my chances of getting it back at all! Completely useless.
Well first of all, Killswitch only works on laptop CPUs, not desktop one (the feauture is simply not there). Theoretically, if you lose your laptop, you should contact the manufacturer with the item's ID and they will stop the CPU. It will not increase or decrease the chances of you finding your laptop. But the thief will certainly be discouraged since all he now has is a broken laptop (plus, if he tries to get it repaired at a computer repair shop, they might catch him).

If you feel that the feature will hurt your chances of finding your laptop, then simply don't do it. No one is forcing you to turn use it. I still don't see why it's bad; if you think it's detrimental don't use it, if you think you will benefit from it, then use it. No one is forcing you to do anything, Intel is just giving you an extra option.
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Hi Born;

The kill switch will not discouraged a thief. This is plan and simple misinformation. The thief will steal it based upon the presence of an opportunity. If he can get a couple of dollars then he gets a couple of dollars.

As mentioned, it will not help recover a stolen laptop as outlined.
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Hi Born;

The kill switch will not discouraged a thief. This is plan and simple misinformation. The thief will steal it based upon the presence of an opportunity. If he can get a couple of dollars then he gets a couple of dollars.

As mentioned, it will not help recover a stolen laptop as outlined.
Perhaps not, but what if the Intel Killswitch can be expanded to all parts of a PC. Or what if it can be integrated with a GPS location, that could be used to locate the laptop. It has endless possibilities and it is a new technology which adds a new layer of protection; I still don't see why it's bad (it either shouldn't bother you since you wouldn't use it or it would hep you if you use it) and so many people are reacting negatively to it.

Besides, the Killswitch is there to protect your CPU, and it has made sure that it is protected. The thief will definitely not be able to sell the CPU at least. At least your CPU is protected, he won't be able to get any money for that part.
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The software already exists that does what you stated. See PC phonehome as an example.

It is software that sends an email out whenever the computer is turned on and connected to a network. It has existed for a many years and is not by any mean new.

It is your opinion that the kill switch feature is available to protect your computer, that remains to be seen.
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