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I want the performance for the next 3-4 years and be able to keep up with gaming.


This depends entirely on the games you play now, the games you play in the future, and how hardware demanding "future" games that you like, may be.


Ideally, to "future proof" yourself, it's best to buy the best available card(s) at the time of your purchase.
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Well the GTX 470 dosen't support 1.4a HDMI. That's a big issue for me more than not having Physx.

The GTX 570 is great at one card but to SLI two I'd need 900 watts and I don't want to get so close to my 1000 watt and be that close to full load. I do know that two AMD 6870's are better than one GTX 580.

So it boils down to either two GTX 460's or AMD 6870's.

From what I've gathered the AMD 6870's have more juice in performance even reference. The review used stock AMD 6870;s to the overclocked EVGA GTX FTW and the overclocked MSI GTX 460 Hawk Talon Attack. The Hawk Talon's do offer 1.4a HDMI. So it's the Hawk Talon's or the AMD's. If I overclock the AMD's 6870's which I will be I'll even get further away in performance. In fact I'm pretty darn close to a reference AMD 6950 with mine currently.

Unless someone can show me different. I think if I did go with the GTX Hawk Talon's I would have less performance but would gain in Physx and would have to outweigh which is more important to me.


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I saw on you tube that running I7 oc, 480 sli and a demanding game used 668 w, so it should only be a problem running test programs.
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I saw on you tube that running I7 oc, 480 sli and a demanding game used 668 w, so it should only be a problem running test programs.

Supposedly with my sig rig overclocked to 4ghz with sli'd 570s I'd be pulling 768w at full load.

But that's with Antec's power supply calculator. So idk what's true.
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I saw on you tube that running I7 oc, 480 sli and a demanding game used 668 w, so it should only be a problem running test programs.

I guess it depends on which CPU is in the rig. On NewEgg two GTX 480's require 951 watts. On Cyberpower 850 watts.

They take the CPU, motherboard, video card, memory on GPU, and hard drive into consideration. Otherwise you may not be pushing to full FPS on those cards if your under what you really need even though it's working I imagine.

That's with Intel Core i7, regular motherboard (not high end), 1GB or ram on video card, DVD-RW, 7200RPM HDD. Not including any case, cpu, or ram fans but that's minimal.

To run two AMD 6870's NewEgg says 694 watts and Cyberpower says 750 watts.

To run two GTX 460's NewEgg says 717 watts and Cyberpower says 750 watts.

Those figures are on the reference cards not overclocking them yourself or the already overclocked ones out of the box with voltage tweaks.
     
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easy... 6870 dude, check the benchmarks unless you really really want physx
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On the GTX 480's not sure why NewEgg says they need 951 watts - that seems to be a bit high I have to admit. Something a miss there. Notice on Cyberpower on the other cards they demand more watts than NewEgg suggested but on those 480's they wanted less.

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6870's will perform about on par to GTX 460's overclocked. They trade blows depending on how much more of an overclock you can get on the 460's.

At 880mhz core and over, the 460's will perform at 470's level.

In general, the 460's see a larger benefit in overclocking than the 6870's from reviews i've read.

But if you already have a 6870, i would stick with it and just buy another one. It saves a lot of hassle and they will perform about the same. 6870's will save more power though most likely
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6870's will perform about on par to GTX 460's overclocked. They trade blows depending on how much more of an overclock you can get on the 460's.

At 880mhz core and over, the 460's will perform at 470's level.

In general, the 460's see a larger benefit in overclocking than the 6870's from reviews i've read.

But if you already have a 6870, i would stick with it and just buy another one. It saves a lot of hassle and they will perform about the same. 6870's will save more power though most likely

We also know that AMD crossfire scale better than Nvidia SLI's and see better gains on the second card.

I've posted my GPU-Z TechPowerUP overclocked AMD 6870 that's very stable. I'd like to see yours in comparison. Can you post it or anyone else for that matter. Very curious to see what Gpixels and bandwidth your pulling.

Thanks for those who do.
     
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Originally Posted by Arizonian;11965034 

I've posted my GPU-Z TechPowerUP overclocked AMD 6870 that's very stable. I'd like to see yours in comparison. Can you post it or anyone else for that matter. Very curious to see what Gpixels and bandwidth your pulling.

Thanks for those who do.


Your card @ 1ghz is going to edge any 460 thats not clocked at similar clocks. I'd be willing to bet if you found someone with a 1ghz 460, you'd see similar gpixels and bandwidth.
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