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Can we not ruin this guys thread? Before I have to start reporting.
I thought this was the folding lounge...
You are talking one of the folding editors?

This isn't the folding lounge, it's a thread in the folding section

To the OP, you can't fold on anything below the 8-Series of nVidia cards. 86/8800GT or above for worthwhile PPD.
    
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Lets start with my simple questions. Is it beneficial to have older PC's not doing anything fold. (not worried about power consumption at the moment). In-particular P4's with about a gig of ram.
I didnt like the answer given to this one... People saying its not worth it...
If you are only worried about the points, then no, it is not worth using them.

BUT

If you are doing it for the research, there are units for single core processors that are waiting to be done.
30 single core machines will probably crank out roughly 30 units per day, give you 3000 PPD total, and produce a bunch of heat. I could see this many computers getting out of hand running them all in your house

But if it is cold where you are and you use electric heat, you might as well run them for the winter and do some research with your heaters.

After that, if you have some that are better than the others and electric is not an issue still, you could fold on just a few to cut heat during the summer. One option for summer folding on that many CPUs would be if you had a garage or outbuilding with electric in it that you could run the computers in without roasting your house
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post #43 of 50
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I didnt like the answer given to this one... People saying its not worth it...
If you are only worried about the points, then no, it is not worth using them.
True.

But to be honest, if they are S478 P4's. They aren't efficient at all. So the PPD/Watt's is not worth it at all. Basically wasting money on electricity. And 30 units per day? Don't know where you got that from. It took my S478 P4 over a day to complete a WU.
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And 30 units per day? Don't know where you got that from. It took my S478 P4 over a day to complete a WU.
well, yes, sometimes they are bigger... especially in the past. But right now there are units worth 75pts and 69pts.
What was that computer clocked at? My P4 S478 is 3 GHz and did them just fine. My laptop @ 2 GHz rips through them at ~130 ppd.
So if he has 30 systems, I bet you he could get 30 done per day on average.




So, are all these CPUs Willamette, Northwood, or Prescott?

Prescotts and even Northwoods would do great and the CPU watts I believe are mostly under 75w for Northwood and under 90 for Prescott... power inefficient? The more power it is needing, the faster they will be getting them done.

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Originally Posted by Disenchanterx View Post
Lets start with my simple questions. Is it beneficial to have older PC's not doing anything fold. (not worried about power consumption at the moment). In-particular P4's with about a gig of ram.
Thats what I base my response on.
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well, yes, sometimes they are bigger... especially in the past. But right now there are units worth 75pts and 69pts.
What was that computer clocked at? My P4 S478 is 3 GHz and did them just fine. My laptop @ 2 GHz rips through them at ~130 ppd.
So if he has 30 systems, I bet you he could get 30 done per day on average.




So, are all these CPUs Willamette, Northwood, or Prescott?

Prescotts and even Northwoods would do great and the CPU watts I believe are mostly under 75w for Northwood and under 90 for Prescott... power inefficient? The more power it is needing, the faster they will be getting them done.
Mine is a Northwood P4 w/ HT 3.06Ghz. And it took over a day to do some of them. I don't fold on my laptop cause it causes way too much heat than I like. That's the thing I don't know. His could either be S478 or S775. Since it seems that Dell Optiplex 280's came in both.
post #46 of 50
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Mine is a Northwood P4 w/ HT 3.06Ghz. And it took over a day to do some of them.
Ah, thats where the problem is... HT will make the unicore units run slower than they would if HT was turned off... unless you run 2 units at a time; but there did not seem to be much benefit to doing that.
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post #47 of 50
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Ah, thats where the problem is... HT will make the unicore units run slower than they would if HT was turned off... unless you run 2 units at a time; but there did not seem to be much benefit to doing that.
Very true and it seems that the old HT never really did anything. I tried SMP. Would have taken 3 days. Tried single core x 2.

Nothing was really beneficial.
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Originally Posted by k4m1k4z3 View Post
I didnt like the answer given to this one... People saying its not worth it...
If you are only worried about the points, then no, it is not worth using them.

BUT

If you are doing it for the research, there are units for single core processors that are waiting to be done.
30 single core machines will probably crank out roughly 30 units per day, give you 3000 PPD total, and produce a bunch of heat. I could see this many computers getting out of hand running them all in your house

But if it is cold where you are and you use electric heat, you might as well run them for the winter and do some research with your heaters.

After that, if you have some that are better than the others and electric is not an issue still, you could fold on just a few to cut heat during the summer. One option for summer folding on that many CPUs would be if you had a garage or outbuilding with electric in it that you could run the computers in without roasting your house
To be honest I'm doing it for two reasons.
First most important reason is a Learning experience such as: power control, clock control, cooling and equipment configurations, virtual machines, and remote connections, technical problem solving.

Second reason is for the research and competition because I like being part of a competitive community in the name of something better then ourselves

I wasn't wanting to hook up all of these PC's I just wanted to use a couple of them, and I just wanted to put them to use before going to the recyclers. Its really not a big deal.

However I decided I am just going to buy some components off of the Egg, build me a couple of folding machines.

I'm not worried about power because its not my power!
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Sounds good man.
Make sure when you make a little farm.
You make a little thread about it
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Sounds good man.
Make sure when you make a little farm.
You make a little thread about it
I plan for you guys to be part of it start to finish

I will make another post when I start picking out components!
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