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Hello all, I'm new to the forum and to watercooling. Looking over all this information is very confusing, and i can't seem to find a consumer reports style site for watercooling parts, ranking them by effictiveness. (at least not an objective one that isn't operated by a particular manufacturer).

So I look to you guys. Please help this noob out. :-)

Here is my rig, with links to more info below. What do you guys suggest? I need a combination of quiet and cool, and that can be easily mounted because i know even LESS about modding a case.

My case:
CHENMING CMUI-601AECB-U Charcoal Black 1.0mm SECC Server Computer Case

My mobo:
ASUS P5K DELUXE/WIFI-AP LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX Intel Motherboard

My cpu (OC'ed to 3.2 400x8):
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Kentsfield 2.4GHz LGA 775 Quad-Core Processor BX80562Q6600

My power supply:
PC Power and Cooling S61EPS 610W Continuous @ 40°C EPS12V SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power ...

My Video Card:
PNY VCG98GTEE1XPB GeForce 9800 GT 1GB 256-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

My RAM (running at 1066mhz, 2.1v):
G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F2-8500CL5D-4GBPI

currently my system is running osx snow leopard, and tends to run a little hot (48-50 degrees Celsius standard, and 60-75 degrees Celsius on heavy load). That's with the side of the case off and a bedroom fan pointing right at the cpu, in addition to the ZALMAN CNPS9700 LED 110mm 2 Ball CPU Cooler fan)

I really appreciate any and all help. I am looking for the best solution, and perhaps it's more economically priced younger brother.

    
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Intel Core2Quad Q6600 Kentsfield 2.4 OC'ed to 3.6 Asus P5k Deluxe Wifi AP PNY 9800 GT EE (non reference Card) G.SKILL 8GB (4 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM 1066mhz 
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KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Logitech Illuminated Keyboard (Best fookin KB!) PC Power and Cooling S61EPS 610W Continuous @ 40°C Corsair 800D (Sexiest Case Ever) Logitech Optical Mouse 
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post #2 of 17
XSPC RS240 Kit
MCW60
Silver Kill Coil

A full CPU + GPU watercooling loop for under $200.
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post #3 of 17
Thread Starter 
Hi charliehorse thanks for the quick rePly. I was looking for specific brands, kit vs individual parts, that kind of thing. Any ideas?

Update: I was on my iPhone and didn't see the top of your post. My b.

Is this top quality parts. I have daymares of coolant getting into my parts.
Edited by Colavoce07 - 1/10/11 at 9:15am
    
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Intel Core2Quad Q6600 Kentsfield 2.4 OC'ed to 3.6 Asus P5k Deluxe Wifi AP PNY 9800 GT EE (non reference Card) G.SKILL 8GB (4 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM 1066mhz 
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Intel Core2Quad Q6600 Kentsfield 2.4 OC'ed to 3.6 Asus P5k Deluxe Wifi AP PNY 9800 GT EE (non reference Card) G.SKILL 8GB (4 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM 1066mhz 
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WD VelociRaptor 300GB 10K RPM, 2x 320gb, 1x 500gb LITE-ON 20X DVD±R with LightScribe Black Model Apple OSX Snow Leopard 10.6.4 2x Dell 24" 1680x1050 LCDs, 46" Panasonic Plasma 
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post #4 of 17
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Originally Posted by Colavoce07 View Post
Hi charliehorse thanks for the quick rePly. I was looking for specific brands, kit vs individual parts, that kind of thing. Any ideas?

Update: I was on my iPhone and didn't see the top of your post. My b.

Is this top quality parts. I have daymares of coolant getting into my parts.
The two companies in my list were XSPC and Swiftech which are both awesome companies that have been in the watercooling business for years. If you notice I have the XSPC RX480 radiator and the Swiftech MCW60 waterblock in my loop, as well as the Swiftech MCP 355 pump and the XSPC Reservoir top.

They are awesome companies, you won't have any issues with them.
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post #5 of 17
Thread Starter 
So I was reading through some reviews of the XSPC Rasa 750 RS360 and 240 kits. They look great so far. Learning a lot of good terminology along the way as well. Charliehorse, from the posts I've seen you make in that very same review it's obvious you are incredibly knowledgeable about cooling. Thanks for taking the time. In addition to those three components, is there anything else I need to purchase? Is there a real benefit to going with the 360 kit over the 240? Hope to hear from you soon.

can't find the mcw60
did find the mcw80
it says it will fit reference cards, i think mine may not be. i've been searching for and can't find squat.

do you know what waterblock i can use with the PNY 9800 gt ee 1gb vga card for sure??
Edited by Colavoce07 - 1/10/11 at 12:59pm
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core2Quad Q6600 Kentsfield 2.4 OC'ed to 3.6 Asus P5k Deluxe Wifi AP PNY 9800 GT EE (non reference Card) G.SKILL 8GB (4 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM 1066mhz 
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KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
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WD VelociRaptor 300GB 10K RPM, 2x 320gb, 1x 500gb LITE-ON 20X DVD±R with LightScribe Black Model Apple OSX Snow Leopard 10.6.4 2x Dell 24" 1680x1050 LCDs, 46" Panasonic Plasma 
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post #6 of 17
I would also get 2 x Bitspower 1/2" Barbs. While the retail MCW60 does come with barbed fittings already, they are of the plastic type and I find them to be unreliable. Also, considering that the waterblock is actually discontinued you may end up buying it used and not receiving the barbs.

As far as the 360 vs. 240 radiator goes, the difference between them amounts to 2-3C. Bigger radiators allow to use lower speed fans or get lower water-air deltas (lowering your temperatures). The bigger radiator also costs more and is harder to fit into a case.

EDIT: Also, if you could please fill out your complete system specs here, it would be great. Then it will show up in your signature like it does in mine.
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120GB Vertex SSD Western Digital 1TB None! Ubuntu 12.04/Win8/OSX 10.8.2 
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post #7 of 17
I'm using the MCW60 on my 9800GT. With only part of my coolant diverted to the GPU it doesn't ever break a sweat. You should also buy some generic copper or aluminum heat sinks for the memory etc on the 9800 too... The MCW60 only cools the processor. Good luck.
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post #8 of 17
Thread Starter 
Ah ok, thanks for that. I went with the rasa 750 rs360. I hope to be able to run as quietly as possible. I called swiftech and discovered my pny 9800gt ee is not a board built off the reference design. The tech was very helpful though, he asked me to measure the distance between screws to confirm if my card was compatible. I just got the kit today, and will measure the card once I get home. It looks like the mcw80 will fit, but may require the gt200 adapter based on the measurements I take. I'll post my results later on tonight. Thanks again for the help all!

Update1: what specific heat sinks do you recommend for the 9800?
Edited by Colavoce07 - 1/11/11 at 2:33pm
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core2Quad Q6600 Kentsfield 2.4 OC'ed to 3.6 Asus P5k Deluxe Wifi AP PNY 9800 GT EE (non reference Card) G.SKILL 8GB (4 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM 1066mhz 
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post #9 of 17
Any old piece of copper you have lying around. Basically anything you can get to stick to the memory and VRM chips is fine.
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post #10 of 17
Thread Starter 
Oh my god, I want to punch myself in the Fing face. I can't figure out how to mount the radiator, there are no holes for the tubing to get in through the back of the case. Epic friggin fail. Best of all there were zero instructions. Awesome xspc. Great job.

My case is listed in the first post, if anyone has any suggestions on how I can hoodini this, I would be grateful.

I was under ther delusion that I could attach it to the back of my case but I'm not seeing any holes. Aaaaarrrrrrggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

My noobishness will be the death of me. Why did I think I could do this after seeing two YouTube vids which were little more than unboxings.

Aaaaaaarrrrrrgggggghhhhhh.
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core2Quad Q6600 Kentsfield 2.4 OC'ed to 3.6 Asus P5k Deluxe Wifi AP PNY 9800 GT EE (non reference Card) G.SKILL 8GB (4 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM 1066mhz 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
WD VelociRaptor 300GB 10K RPM, 2x 320gb, 1x 500gb LITE-ON 20X DVD±R with LightScribe Black Model Apple OSX Snow Leopard 10.6.4 2x Dell 24" 1680x1050 LCDs, 46" Panasonic Plasma 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Logitech Illuminated Keyboard (Best fookin KB!) PC Power and Cooling S61EPS 610W Continuous @ 40°C Corsair 800D (Sexiest Case Ever) Logitech Optical Mouse 
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Intel Core2Quad Q6600 Kentsfield 2.4 OC'ed to 3.6 Asus P5k Deluxe Wifi AP PNY 9800 GT EE (non reference Card) G.SKILL 8GB (4 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM 1066mhz 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
WD VelociRaptor 300GB 10K RPM, 2x 320gb, 1x 500gb LITE-ON 20X DVD±R with LightScribe Black Model Apple OSX Snow Leopard 10.6.4 2x Dell 24" 1680x1050 LCDs, 46" Panasonic Plasma 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
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