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Firstly I would like to thank you for taking the time to do this, secondly if I can be of any assistance please let me know.

Might I suggest you download all the game benchmarks I suggest or the game itself/bench/then delete it afterwards.

Finally could you please run these tests on the latest graphics solution available to you, for example 5series nvidia 6 series ATi......if not possible just use the 580GTX. Thanks.

------- As a side note I'd like to say, I am a gamer and gaming performance is the ONLY thing I care about, for that reason you can understand if I completely disregard anything that doesn't concern pure gaming output performance. + I come from a programming background, thank you for listening.

(For the following ALL at 1920x1080p - MAX ALL (not a box unticked, Depth Of Field, Physics, DX10 & 11, all draw distance MAX, No of X on screen MAX) - NO VSYNC - 1xAA (so no Aliasing effectively) & 16xAF if possible (it is MAX - Texture in some games)

>Crysis 2 (when it comes out)
>Metro 2033
>GTA IV
>3dMark Vantage 1.02 - Performance
>3dMark 11 - Performance (please download or wait for updates)
>Crysis & Crysis Warhead
>Final Fantasy XIV - benchmarking program (HIGH 1080p only)
>Flight Simulator X
>R.U.S.E. (be sure to MAX every textures I want to see them at MAX)
*Plus a shout out to all the epic gamers who know about RUSE CPU pwnage.
>Mafia II
>Kane & Lynch
>Starcraft II

If this is too hard for you:
1.R.U.S.E.
2.GTA IV
3.STALKER:Call of Pripyat
4.Crysis 2

Note: If R.U.S.E. is absolutely taking the piss out of you, you can tame it a little, but give the performance scores on MAX anyway D:

As you can see I am a serious Gamer and have chosen to test on a number of statistics.

(Please if possible do each test with and without SLi only up to SLI x2) - Please also do not use FRAPS - I am only interested in the benchmarking score.

-Personally I do not think (if you test these as stated) that there will be any doubt which CPU is best.
*IMHO coming from a programming background, and ALL the research I've seen I think the 980X will be a clear winner by performance increases of 15% at least, though I have seen COMPLETELY contradicting results on the net, sometimes the 980X being completly justified other times not so much IF AT ALL :/ I would like to just clear this up once and for all.

Finally I would like you to all remember, 980X is 200ish-700 dollars more if you know how to shop, and I'm not revealing any sources. If I see what I am expecting to see, factoring in that BIG TECHNOLOGY games take 3-5years to make + 2012 games are still in the pipelines based on i7 technology + Ivy Extreme is the first to be released late Q4-2011 with Ivy i7 equivalents late Q2-2012 + I won't be gaming 2013+ I'll be happy to part with my money now for a system that will run 1080p?Max_Settings until then.

Personally I would have no problem getting a P67 if 980X doesn't give me the results I need, however I will be pissed off because new technology right around the corner will make 2600K look like PiECE oF ****, plus many of us think AMD+ATi could make a comback with Intel having fought with Nvidia n' all.

And just for the sake of venting: would some of you P67 people please not spam, opinions are like *******s everybody has one but nobody wants to hear it, back up everything you say with NOT JUST with sources from the internet, but with intelligent reasons as to why pertaining on facts to the nature of software/hardware achitecture.......same goes for X58 ppls but you guys seem to be following this rule already.

Few! Just had to say that because everyone with a 2600K just seems to be trying to justify why they upgraded now instead of waiting 2012, you guys come off like shop merchants and nobody want to hear that ****. You might be right, but saying your right ahead of time doesn't do anybody any favours! FACTS FIRST, BUL**** LATER.

oh sigh and just to mention it, I'm not an "anything" kind of guy, if it's good and I need it, it's mine, period, don't give a fuk about the brand, sorry!
Edited by Truthe - 2/22/11 at 6:03am
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^^ I ran the benches that I had available. I'm not going out to purchase the rest of those. I was really comparing the cpu power.

The 980x isn't the real winner here for gaming, unless your planning on Surround with 3 cards.

For 1 card or 2. 2600k beats the 980x most of the time. 90% of the time.

I've been running 1080p max setting for a long time. You don't have to wait. It's already here.
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Hey Truthe, get some rep and maybe you can get some pull. You can't just join OCN and start telling us what you want us to do. We've put in our time and work with each other. You made 1 post, and your telling me what you want me to do. Ask, don't tell.
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I have no idea why some people bought Sandy Bridge. Bulldozer and Ivy Bridge are coming.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HybridCore View Post
I have no idea why some people bought Sandy Bridge. Bulldozer and Ivy Bridge are coming.
Because it's the fastest thing you can get right NOW. TODAY. NOT IN A YEAR.

Some of us have money to burn and will always get the latest stuff. I will be getting Ivy bridge also.
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For BFBC2 I'd like to see 1920x1200 or 1920x1080, either is fine they're close enough. Settings all maxed in DX11 so 8xAA, 16xAF, HBAO On, Bloom On etc... First run stock 980X 3.3Ghz VS 2600K 3.4Ghz and then second run OC4.4Ghz VS 4.4Ghz.

Preferably in full 32 slot server on either of these maps Valparaiso, Nelson Bay, or White Pass because they have more trees, bushes, houses, and debris on the map. Test run 5 minutes each real world gameplay benchmarked through FRAPS. Couldn't get PlayClaw to work properly for benching. So Min, Max, Average FPS.

I know S775 higher Quad Cores overclocked to 3.2Ghz-3.4Ghz+ can handle BFBC2 with 5850 or better with playable framerates. But when you drop to about 3.0Ghz on S775 Quads you drop frames dramatically making it less playable. So anything less than about 3.2Ghz Quads on S775 will get unplayable frame rates on high at 1920x1200 resolution. On Wolfdale overclocked to 4.0Ghz it's crippling, highest I can run max FPS is about 45 @ 1920x1200 resolution, average frames is 30, you have to drop to about 1680x1050 to get anything playable on high settings.

For GTAIV if possible, 1920x1200 max settings, and the built-in game benchmark. The benchmark should be accurate enough for in-game play.

I know someone is probably going to request Mafia II, I don't have it so I don't know the game settings but I'd like to see it as well. Maybe someone else can request it with settings. I was hoping HardOCP would cover real world performance in games with BFBC2 but they didn't. I don't know why some of these tech sites pick dumb games that won't stress out the 4 cores. L4D2, come on really? MW2? LOL. I would say Metro 2033 but that game is more GPU bound than anything else.

I'd very much like to see this too. 1980 with at least 4x-8x FSAA, or 2560 if you have the monitor.
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this was done a month and a half ago. It's done now. Look at the benches. BBC2 was done with 8xQmsaa
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I think that if you already have a 980x you shouldnt change it over SB but if you an AMD like me(im really happy with my CPU)then SB seems like a really good/cheap/awesome option to upgrade in the future at least until intel fix the issues with the motherboards, anyways we will have to see how bulldozer performs and then make a choice. Nice benchs +1
    
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Rep + pull? You were offering so I asked? If you can't provide the appropriate benchmarks I can't conclude my hypothesis.

980X comes with higher cache, Tri-Channel, and PCI functioning at 16x 16x bandwidth on SLi, and ofcourse 6 cores, which is the way to go for gaming...

a 2600K 4 cores + lower cache + new architecture + PCI x8 x8

you can see my concerns, I too have money to blow but not time to waste.

If the hype is correct the new architectures are going to have unbelievable performance however with the 990X still in town we'll see.

Can you also explain how you have concluded the 2600K is better for gaming?

TO:2thAche - you seem like a gamer, but u shudn't really ask for BFBC2 it's rediculously weak, for games you really want to see how CPU + GPU architecture/technology performs and you want to be looking at games that use heavy rendering engines with high quality lighting and shading stuff - like Crysis 2, R.U.S.E. and GTAIV things which actually utilise Multi-Threading via Hyper-Threading, Multiple GPU/CPU

also as a futile effort to a few others out there: http://software.intel.com/en-us/arti...ng-technology/
please in the future do not abnegate with script kiddy nonse that games do not use HT and HT hurts performance, there is just too much about software and programming you obviously fail to realise and as most of you have stated know/care nothing about games/gaming....especially just because you read some half truth based on some misinformed and misunderstood article/forum, it's true that MT was a new practice but there are tons of competent programming houses out there that are making games ready to tear the **** out of more cores.

(Personal Joke + anyone who get's it ) AND FOR GOD SAKE'S DONT MENTION ARMA II
post #440 of 447
Tri-Channel? dude,if you only care about gaming,tri or dual channel doesn't matter
x8 x8 and x16 x16?: gaming at 1080p,doesn't matter too
6 cores?how many games use 6 core?

I would say for the most general gamer,SB is awesome
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