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Previously I said I had had 2 out of 3 recent MSI boards fail , all the same model . ( all have had the same component in the vrm fail )
I stand corrected it is now 3 from 3 all 890GXM-G65 .
All of these have failed with a standard 1090T at stock clocks and voltage - NO OVERCLOCKS
I can only speak about the one model board that I have owned - but that board is a dud !
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Originally Posted by Copley007 View Post

If the company is not to be blamed, then who else? The end user
I 've been in the PC industrious for overs 20 years+
ALL mobo models are not same, that's why you do a beach test, be for you sell it to your customer.eg: you buy 2011 HSV Holden they say it can go up to 250km a hour, doesn't mean it can.
If one of my Customers came back with their PC not working and if I find out that they have been OC that is to bad sorry (NO WARRANTY).
I talk to PC store owners all over Australia by Phone or at Road Shows and they all have the same view as me The end user are to be blamed.
Q:The road sign said 110km per hour, do you go faster than that ? A: NO
So my a vice is
1)keep to stock setting
2) learn to marry Components together
3) beach testing ,beach testing,beach testing
I Have had only two MSI boards come back for WARRANTY and they were the older one's.

My MSI board died on me in 3 days of use with no overclocking so if its my fault then that would be surprising.
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I think something to remember is that motherboard companies dont make the caps and that EVERY brand will make a bad product at times.

In last couple years MSI had been making excellent stuff and its only getting better.

Also, when I come across a blown cap I just replace it with a better one. No biggie
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Look at these power numbers.
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/CPU/64
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/CPU/52

Seems to me, it's a bad idea to install a Phenom II x4 or x6 into a low quality, budget motherboard, especially if cpu stress tests will be run.
There are even some x2's and x3's which show surprisingly high power consumption.

Intel owners normally don't install a $1000 6-core intel cpu into a $50-$100 budget board.
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In Australia we don't have a VRM prolbem of any kind with MSI and very little RMA ,MSI is a very big Sell in Australia . To be true it is ASUS mobo that keep coming back for RMA. At my PC shop last year I've had over 350 ASUS mobo for RAM lost count over ten years. 2 MSI mobo over Ten years and this year I sold over 4000 MSI mobo in Package Systems. I Stopped selling ASUS

I talk to PC store owners all over Australia by Phone or at Road Shows and they all have the same view as me The end user are to be blamed.
PunKx1 You are an end user You OC ,that is to bad, SORRY (NO WARRANTY)
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Really? Apparently you have not read my posts.
I've had nothing but good results from the 100's of MSI boards I have used in custom PC's for clients and the three I currently am using in my home work great!
According to your broad statement, people like me don't exist.

MOST fail, not ALL. You fall under the latter thumb.gif
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I think something to remember is that motherboard companies dont make the caps and that EVERY brand will make a bad product at times.
In last couple years MSI had been making excellent stuff and its only getting better.
Also, when I come across a blown cap I just replace it with a better one. No biggie

Getting better? Bro you trippin' biggrin.gif
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In Australia we don't have a VRM prolbem of any kind with MSI and very little RMA ,MSI is a very big Sell in Australia . To be true it is ASUS mobo that keep coming back for RMA. At my PC shop last year I've had over 350 ASUS mobo for RAM lost count over ten years. 2 MSI mobo over Ten years and this year I sold over 4000 MSI mobo in Package Systems. I Stopped selling ASUS
I talk to PC store owners all over Australia by Phone or at Road Shows and they all have the same view as me The end user are to be blamed.
PunKx1 You are an end user You OC ,that is to bad, SORRY (NO WARRANTY)

I respectfully disagree mate. Australia may be the golden deer, but the same is not the case everywhere else. Why wouldn't i OC when i'm well below the TDP threshold of the board? Would i pay a nice little to keep my CPU @ stock speeds? Would a company advertise gimmicks that are all OC-related and have the user run on stock? Care to explain your logic? Respectfully speaking, your accusations make ZERO sense. Also, i sense that you may have misunderstood the matter. Back in ye' olden days, MSI boards were the cream of the crop. They were quality oriented and seldom failed. Failures started cropping up not until a few years ago. Specific boards are extremely failure-prone, namely the 7,8 and a few of the 9-series boards. You say that you've been building PCs for the last 10 years and thus, rightfully so, have every right to back up MSI on the quality-front. However, the same cannot be said according to the current scenario, sorry. OEM machines are a different story altogether. Custom-made MSI boards seldom fail, if that's what you mean.
Edited by PunkX 1 - 12/11/11 at 11:27pm
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Nice triple post.

On-topic, I've had 2 MSI boards. One went bad. I sold the other when I switched platforms.
Needless to say, I think I'll stay away. I've seen the numbers around OCN, with the VRM's and all.
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Nice triple post.
On-topic, I've had 2 MSI boards. One went bad. I sold the other when I switched platforms.
Needless to say, I think I'll stay away. I've seen the numbers around OCN, with the VRM's and all.

Sorry about that biggrin.gif
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