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My drive from my FIRST build (1999) is finally failing.

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Drive lasted being powered on for 2.5 years, not too shabby. My 160GB is still chugging along at 2.0 years with no errors.

First drive is a WD, second is a Seagate.

Oh, and finally got around to replacing my CMOS battery so I can keep my clocks at 2.0 GHZ (was at 1.2 GHZ at boot).

Getting a Corsair Graphite White limited edition and a AX 850 PSU and waiting until bulldozer. Socket A has served me well!
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Wow, that's actually a fairly good lifespan for a consumer hdd. The remapped sectors isn't abnormal, but that pending sector count is almost always a death sentence .

I have two 250gb seagates in raid 0 that are at the 2 year mark, but have also had a WD Green and Samsung F3 die within a year.
 
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The key to HDD longetivity, other than never powering them on, is to keep them cool and never, or rarely, power them off. I have a 4 drive WD 500GB Caviar Blue RAID 6 running on a server in my basement nonstop for at least 4-5 years. SMART data shows no errors of any kind on any of the drives. Temperatures are a pretty steady ~25C, even in the summer due to air conditioning.

I've had the same WD hard drives fail within a year in a desktop system with poor ventilation around the drive cage (a Sun Ultra 20) where they typically ran at 35-40C.
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Originally Posted by proximo View Post
The key to HDD longetivity, other than never powering them on, is to keep them cool and never, or rarely, power them off. I have a 4 drive WD 500GB Caviar Blue RAID 6 running on a server in my basement nonstop for at least 4-5 years. SMART data shows no errors of any kind on any of the drives. Temperatures are a pretty steady ~25C, even in the summer due to air conditioning.

I've had the same WD hard drives fail within a year in a desktop system with poor ventilation around the drive cage (a Sun Ultra 20) where they typically ran at 35-40C.

Actually, Google published a paper on temps:
http://static.googleusercontent.com/...k_failures.pdf

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In the lower and middle temperature ranges, higher temperatures are not associated with higher failure rates. This is a fairly surprising result, which could indicate that datacenter or server designers have more freedom than previously thought when setting operating temperatures for equipment that contains disk drives. We can conclude that at moderate temperature ranges it is likely that there are other effects which affect failure rates much more strongly than temperatures do.
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post #5 of 14
Sorry,

Um, why are you getting that PSU in particular? The Antec TP series is also very good. I heard there was a problem with the AX series. Not sure of the validity of that though since it was a while back..

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Actually, Google published a paper on temps:
http://static.googleusercontent.com/...k_failures.pdf
I'm familiar with Google's paper but it goes against decades of empirical evidence to the contrary. There's a reason people have believed for decades that temperature was related to drive failures. Storage engineers don't just make this stuff up.

Google's paper is thought provoking but it would be nice to see their results replicated in an independent study before accepting it as gospel.
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post #7 of 14
A drive from a PC of mine from 2003 just died about a month ago, it was powered on nearly 24/7 for about 3 years Not a bad lifetime at all, especially considering how cheap and dense newer drives are.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by proximo View Post
I'm familiar with Google's paper but it goes against decades of empirical evidence to the contrary. There's a reason people have believed for decades that temperature was related to drive failures. Storage engineers don't just make this stuff up.

Google's paper is thought provoking but it would be nice to see their results replicated in an independent study before accepting it as gospel.
Can you point me to any evidence contrary to Google's results? And I mean large-scale independent research, not word-of-mouth or some guy's blog.

And just because people have believed something for a long time does not make it true. Read Wikipedia's List of Common Misconceptions for over 100 examples of this.
 
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post #9 of 14
Ha nice.

I still use my Maxtor 250GB ide from 2004 as partial backup, and is still going strong. Damn thing gets hot to the touch sometimes.
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post #10 of 14
You guys just dont drop your HDDs often enough.
Once a month on carpet keeps the trash can away.
    
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