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Since OP has either abandoned this project and thread or is all tied up with backup, I suppose it won't be too impolite to chime in on fundamentals again.

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That says it all. I'm not saying it will not work, but to minimize downtime for a major upgrade it is nice to have something do the dependencies.
Servers don't require constant upgrading. There are still Air Traffic Control, hospital, and Major bank servers running Warp Server for eBusiness even though IBM abandoned it 8 years ago. Granted eComStation can provide some hardware compatibility upgrades but these are minor updates, hardly an upgrade, in the server world. Especially in Australia, Japan, and Germany there are still commercial servers running OS/2 v2.1 which came out in 1983!

Servers don't run a variety of applications like client workstations do (let alone Desktop systems) tending to have limited function and services specific only to the client's needs along with the ability to direct traffic and provide security and storage.


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If it worked so well and easy you would think it would have a high market share for servers? Not to mention major known companies would use it.
It isn't as high as RHEL and CentOS by any stretch but it is among the top few in free systems as well as subscription services outside the 2 majors. Even as old as Distrowatch's data is they point out that Slackware is used as a core system because it is so bug free by the very nature of the auto-dependency trade off. Debian based systems do have a high position on Linux based workstations, but not necessarily the servers.

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I'm not saying it's inferior as a distro, but it's not automatic enough to be used as a mainstream server. When something goes down you need it back up and running now, fast and clean. Now you could do disc images, and that will work, I'm pretty sure upgrading the entire network when the new version comes out will be a bit more of a hastle. No offense but configuring and maintaining something like Fedora/Debian vs Slackware is a completely different ballgame.
Real servers don't go down unless it is scheduled and getting back up is SOP. Even on the rare situation of an actual breakdown, mirrored raid with rsync makes restoration trivial and fast especially when not bogged down in ridiculous dependency issues.

Fedora? It's an acceptable Desktop or workstation system but it is widely known that it acts as a beta testing ground for RHEL and far too unstable and buggy for serious server work. To compare Fedora to Slackware is laughable.

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I mean you could use slackware, but then the problem becomes this: You will need to pay your admins more money, because they require more learning/experience. That will cost the company time and money now, which makes it even that much worse. So what do you do? You cut things in half and use something that can be set up in minutes as a server. That's the realistic view, it's not a distro war but corporate politics.
There are companies that provide Slackware server subscription services for as low as $40/month exactly because there is so little downtime and maintenance required. The companies that use such services are OK with "admins" who can barely show workers how to use their mouse or upgrade their workstation's ram.

Seriously mushroomboy I am not trying to flame you or even "show you up". If anything I am trying to get you to install Slackware and use it regularly for a few months so you can find out for yourself how easy and solid it is on the Desktop. Servers? Fuggeddabottit.
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Since OP has either abandoned this project and thread or is all tied up with backup, I suppose it won't be too impolite to chime in on fundamentals again.

I ran into a serious problem. The technician changed the password and says he didn't. Can't get the data out. Tried to get a LiveUSB and pull it out, but it says I don't have access to the database.
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I ran into a serious problem. The technician changed the password and says he didn't. Can't get the data out. Tried to get a LiveUSB and pull it out, but it says I don't have access to the database.
If you mean the system root password see this
http://www.linuxforums.org/articles/...ssword_54.html

If you mean the MySQL password see this
http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/recove...-password.html

Write it down. Don't use spaces. Watch out for "l's" and "1's" and of course, case.
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If you mean the system root password see this
http://www.linuxforums.org/articles/...ssword_54.html

If you mean the MySQL password see this
http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/recove...-password.html

Write it down. Don't use spaces. Watch out for "l's" and "1's" and of course, case.
Got the password back. Thanks!

Now I'm getting error 1045 when trying to mysql dump. Tried using "mysql -u root -p", but that didn't work. I get the same error, except it says (Using Password: YES).
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I'm no MySQL aficionado but I figure it's likely on of two things. Servers have a lot in common with routers, they generally just do a wider range of jobs than routers. But just as most routers are configured from a client browser, it is my understanding that many or most MySQL servers are usually configured from the client. Because you are accessing it right from the server I suspect it does not know how to behave. So....

You can either connect a client and do it from there or you might try this or something like it from the server itself.

http://www.fixya.com/support/t840251...error_messeage

Hope this helps
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This only gets better. I found the MySQL database file and while trying to mount my Flash Drive to copy the file I got an error (something like "the file system has changed to read-only) and decided to restart the server to see if I managed to get the mount working (no other commands could be executed).

Now I get Code 17 when GRUB is loading. Is there any way I can just access the file? It was on the "/" directory.
post #17 of 22
Greetz
Two choices - either get one of these http://www.supergrubdisk.org/
or use the system Install Disk or a LiveCD such as Puppy or Slax to copy the file and/or fix grub.

Error 17 is easy to fix since either you accidentally changed disk boot order or somehow confused grub as to where the root partition is, Show it the right one and done.
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Greetz
Two choices - either get one of these http://www.supergrubdisk.org/
or use the system Install Disk or a LiveCD such as Puppy or Slax to copy the file and/or fix grub.

Error 17 is easy to fix since either you accidentally changed disk boot order or somehow confused grub as to where the root partition is, Show it the right one and done.
Tried using the LiveUSB to copy the file, but I couldn't see it. I did notice I didn't have access to some directories.
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Looks like you'd do well to fix grub. One cool thing about grub is that if you key to edit mode you can enter a trial root selection and it will tell you the file system. Either that or use the LiveUSB to get to command line and use "fdisk -l" to list all the partitions. Then look in menu.lst and grub.cfg to see if the root ("/") declaration matches. Usually Error 17 is due to such a mismatch.

This is a pretty good tutorial
http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/grub.html
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Enorbet I really appreciate your help. My father got tired of waiting and took the server to a technician to get it fixed. Guess that was the best call on his part. I'm going to get Debian as a virtual machine at one point so I can understand it better.

Again, thanks a lot!
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