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Raid Controller is just assigning the job.. It's not really bottleneck. If that is the case ,RAID 0 should also be slow.. Writing same files in different devices would naturally takes time than writing once at same time...
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Yeah, I guess I'm trying to understand why it would be slower. Like you have mentioned, RAID0 is not slower and is in fact almost twice as fast. I guess that is because the information is only being assigned once, albeit to different drives. RAID1 has to assign the data to both drives and so while the drives could go faster, the duplication of that data is what maybe causes the slight slowing of the drives.

ANYWAY, does anyone have a screenshot of a RAID configuration BIOS screen? My MB manual explains where to set up RAID but there are no further instructions or pictures.
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i use same type mobo but it's E .. i think both will have same interface. If you want i can post them when i get to room from office...
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Ah, my HTPC motherboard is an Asus M4A785TD-M EVO. I'm sure I can figure it out when the time comes, but it would be nice to know what to expect when I get there.
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Originally Posted by IEATFISH;11967805 
I actually installed that and tried it out with a test folder with 3 files. After 15 minutes it hadn't gotten past step 1. :/

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say this is user error. I use SyncBack at work and at home and really, its a professional grade tool. I've set it up hundreds of times and never have I had the issue you speak of.. If you want to use software mirroring, IMO SyncBack is the most robust and resource-less (using less resource) tool I have found to date.

On another note, the only option I like would be RAID 1 or RAID 5 (depending on how many drives at your disposal)

RAID 1 and 5 are basically as other said, redundant drives. One fails, hot swap it and the RAID controller rebuilds the array and you're 100% again.
    
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Originally Posted by S_V™;11980401 
Raid Controller is just assigning the job.. It's not really bottleneck. If that is the case ,RAID 0 should also be slow.. Writing same files in different devices would naturally takes time than writing once at same time...

That doesnt make sense. They are the same type of drive, the file will write to each drive at the same speed. If you are using different drives it will be hindered by the slowest drive. There's alot of variables with RAID setups and controllers.

IEATFISH if you just want to copy over the data and not mirror the OS+apps too. I'd check into SyncToy by Microsoft.

We use it at the office to back up critical systems. Example, my boss set it up to backup his work data to his external Raid 1. He loves it.
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Originally Posted by OC96junkie;11980578 
I'm gonna go out on a limb and say this is user error. I use SyncBack at work and at home and really, its a professional grade tool. I've set it up hundreds of times and never have I had the issue you speak of.. If you want to use software mirroring, IMO SyncBack is the most robust and resource-less (using less resource) tool I have found to date.

On another note, the only option I like would be RAID 1 or RAID 5 (depending on how many drives at your disposal)

RAID 1 and 5 are basically as other said, redundant drives. One fails, hot swap it and the RAID controller rebuilds the array and you're 100% again.

You may want to point out that performance is way down when the array is rebuilding (as in a replaced drive). Its still better than data loss.



Op this is also a good read if you wanna kill some time.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SniperXX;11980589 
That doesnt make sense. They are the same type of drive, the file will write to each drive at the same speed. If you are using different drives it will be hindered by the slowest drive. There's alot of variables with RAID setups and controllers.

It does make sense...

RAID 1 acts as only 1 Hard disk if you are using two devices.. So OS don't really use max speed of devices. It's the RAID job to do.. here speeds reduce considerably then devices working individually in OS...

Already some one did small bencmarks.. that's say answer, if you say it should perform same.

Yes, using two different config devices will be hindered by the slowest drive.. But usually same type will be done with RAID 0 or 1.. for better performance...
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IEATFISH if you just want to copy over the data and not mirror the OS+apps too. I'd check into SyncToy by Microsoft.

We use it at the office to back up critical systems. Example, my boss set it up to backup his work data to his external Raid 1. He loves it.



You may want to point out that performance is way down when the array is rebuilding (as in a replaced drive). Its still better than data loss.



Op this is also a good read if you wanna kill some time.

SyncToy is a MS tool, which is nice by nature, but unfortuneatly after using SyncToy it is lacking in a lot of minor features. It does all the main components but it needs refinement. Which brings me back to the point of SyncBack is the best choice for software backup/mirror management. This is only my opinion, however. I consider myself to be an IT Professional, so if its worth anything to you or anyone else, I will recommend SyncBack until I otherwise find something better.

Performance during RAID rebuilding is so bad, and quite frankly dangerous, I recommend not using the computer during rebuilding. However, the computer is still usable during a rebuild process. Its just slowed greatly by low disk performance.

Regarding the WiKi RAID article, I highly recommend OP reads it too, it is very educational.
    
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Yeah, I went through and read it. Thanks for the link. I'll mess with SyncBack again but all I did the first time was:

1) Install
2) Setup an Easy Mode Sync using all defaults
3) Selected a folder for the original folder with 3 files in it
4) Selected an empty folder for the destination folder
5) Clicked Finished

It tried to run but stuck on the first step which was Analyzing or something. I didn't change any defaults and I didn't do anything other than what it instructed me. Was just silly that it took over 15 min. to do anything with 3 files, how will my music and video library with over 20,000 files going to work out...
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I reguarly use SyncBack to analyze and copy over 250,000 files sized at about 150 GB at least once a week on my home computer to my network server, takes about 2-3 hours depending on how many small files change/update.

I really, really think you should try it again as I strongly feel you might have done something in error. Like I said we use this program on an enterprise level and its beautiful with how easy it works. Give it another shot man, it is one of the best programs for backup/mirroring available. I've gone through at least 20-30 different programs before deciding to use SyncBack and I strongly feel its of the best.

If you want some personalized help with it, I can jump in Vent or some other IM svc and help you out. I'm well versed with it so I can show u some tricks too smile.gif

I personally avoid RAID at my home since I don't use the expensive controllers, and I don't like waiting for rebuilds at home, I just swap drives and re-run the backup via SyncBack. Also, RAID will eat CPU cycles when using in-built controllers. I use software to run it when I'm not using the PC
    
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