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things we know from the article:

BD will come close to 6 core i7 (assuming that this test was actually done)

what we don't know:

the benchmarks being used
the comparison (does this mean core/core, clock for clock or specific model to specific model - ie BD ES vs 980x)?

due to these vague generalities we cannot even begin to understand anything about BD from this article.

what we do know about BD:

2 cores form a module which share resources
its on a 32nm process
16mb total cache
new socket (am3+)
q2 2011 release date
new memory controller
faster than k10/k10.5
backwards compatible (for servers)

what we don't know:
clockspeeds (this includes the ES that are out in the wild)
exact release dates (when in q2?)
benchmarks
overclockability

what is speculated:
1 BD module will be on par (or close to it) with 1 HT intel core
high clockspeeds
performance
exact release dates
Edited by amay200 - 1/11/11 at 11:44am
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Oh, cool. More rumors!

We seriously need some numbers we can actually see, not just something as vague as this.
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This is one of the largest arguments I have seen on here based on nothing in a long time. I read all 11 pages for pure amusement. Wait for the benchmarks and then nobody can say who's right The chip will either be good or not JUST WAIT!!!!!!!!!!!
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Rumours so we will have to wait and see.
 
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post #125 of 163
Quote:
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It shouldn't come close to Core i7, it should leapfrog it. This rumour disappoints me.
Anyone who was expecting different was honestly fooling themselves.
    
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Why is it that for one company to win, the other has to lose? You know if one loses, both lose...right?
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post #127 of 163
Quote:
Originally Posted by amay200 View Post
what is speculated:
1 BD module will be on par (or close to it) with 1 HT intel core
I think we're pretty much certain a BD module (2 physical core w/ shared resourced) will be faster than a HT core (1 physical core, 2 threads). Or else, an 8 core BD will have trouble matching a Bloomsfield, which will be REALLY sad!

People estimate a BD module at 180% or one physical core, and HT at 130% of a physical core. So an 8 core BD have a possibility of matching a 6 core / 12 thread i7.
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Originally Posted by Raven Dizzle View Post
Why is it that for one company to win, the other has to lose? You know if one loses, both lose...right?
Actually, if one looses, us CONSUMERS loose!

Consider this: if the Athlon K7 and K8s never existed, we'd still be paying $1200 for an "Extreme Edition", 3.6 Ghz Netburst right now.
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If it overclocks, and dosent have DRM inside. Ill give it some slack on preformence.
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If I upgrade next this cycle it will definitely be Bulldozer. I love AMD, I have always been a big fan since my old Athlon 1.3Ghz build, and even though performance dictated I go Intel, Intel has been making some choices that bother me lately.

One, Intel has made overclocking into an opportunity to up-sell. They know that enthusiasts are willing to pay sometimes big bucks for hardware and that they like to OC, so they've eliminated OC'ing on all the lower end models.

Couple that with the different socket every new processor these last couple tick/tocks and even using two different sockets for Nehalem's launch, I've really wanted to go back to AMD. Intel makes a great cpu and a great chipset but I don't really like their business practices.

To the people talking about performance, it should be right around comparable with Intel's high end at the time it hits the market. Depending on pricing they may make great chips, we don't know what features we will be seeing, and remember, at one point AMD was a full two generations behind, with Phenom II they caught up to being only 1 generation behind and it looks like Bulldozer will bring them parity. They've really been working hard to catch up and I think Bulldozers "tock" will push it over the top.
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