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Originally Posted by arbalest View Post
Not really. It's still a loss. Touting and releasing a "New Architecture" that can only compete with Intel's Highest End CPU of the LAST Generation is hardly a win.

Do you really think it will be $200? Come on! I can see $300, but like I've been saying, unless it's fast core-wise as the Intel Architecture, there's no point. Games will play the same regardless of 4,6, or 8 cores, and Cinebench seems to be the last remaining benchmark in which AMD only wins by pure core count, and not by much.

I'm all for AMD, but they're lackluster and have been for quite some time. They need to push the performance envelope. Beat Intel at it's own game!
Meh, as of today 980X is still king all around, ignoring the price premium. For desktop LGA.

By the time BD is actually on consumer shelves, that is another matter. When Ivy comes out, it'll smoke BD performance-wise I think...tho BD might when the power draw contest. Of course Ivy will probably be a $500+ CPU range.
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8 cores/threads closing on 6 cores/12 threads. Not unusual AMD keep it up!
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Originally Posted by arbalest View Post
Not really. It's still a loss. Touting and releasing a "New Architecture" that can only compete with Intel's Highest End CPU of the LAST Generation is hardly a win.

Do you really think it will be $200? Come on! I can see $300, but like I've been saying, unless it's fast core-wise as the Intel Architecture, there's no point. Games will play the same regardless of 4,6, or 8 cores, and Cinebench seems to be the last remaining benchmark in which AMD only wins by pure core count, and not by much.

I'm all for AMD, but they're lackluster and have been for quite some time. They need to push the performance envelope. Beat Intel at it's own game!
if all you do is worry about games why bother with an i7? why not an i5? or any phenom? there is hardly any difference between then while playing games.
personally the amount of frames you get from a 150$ cpu and a 300$ cpu is totally not worth the extra 150$ id rather spend the extra 150$ on a graphics
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if all you do is worry about games why bother with an i7? why not an i5? or any phenom? there is hardly any difference between then while playing games.
personally the amount of frames you get from a 150$ cpu and a 300$ cpu is totally not worth the extra 150$ id rather spend the extra 150$ on a graphics
Thats only partially correct.
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Light the fire and the fanboys soon follow.

SERIOUSLY though...as an owner of both a current gen AMD and an i7 920@4GHz, I'd like to give my insight;

AMD has ALWAYS beated Intel on price. ALWAYS. What they lack in performance (which isn't nearly as substantial as people make it out to be...I mean..."smoked"? "stomped"? get real.), they 90 percent of the time make up for in price. This has ALWAYS been their strategy. This is absolutely and completely nothing new. It seems to work well for them as well.

Now, if ANY of the BD processors can match or better the performance of the overpriced 980x (which will inevitably STILL be more expensive), I'd call that a hell of a feat. How can you call a CPU priced at around 300-400$ that outperforms a CPU priced at nearly 1000$ a failure? That is a victory in every sense of the word.
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Who cares if its close? If it can get close to i7 performance for a lot cheaper than i7 than that's a win in my opinion. AMD has always been about bang for your buck, not paying a premium price for top of the line hardware which is what Intel is all about for the most part.
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Fud and rumors

I am expecting the 8 core Bulldozer to rape the 980x for $500 for their flagship model.
   
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AMD has ALWAYS beated Intel on price. ALWAYS.
I can get an i7-950 retail new for darn near the same off NewEgg as an 1100T....or an i7-920 for and even closer margin.

Guess which performs better all around? I like my 1055T build-I like my Nehalem build even more for what I do.
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Want a processor 2X faster than Intel? We could do that. You couldn't afford it.
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I can get an i7-950 retail new for darn near the same off NewEgg as an 1100T....or an i7-920 for and even closer margin.

Guess which performs better all around? I like my 1055T build-I like my Nehalem build even more for what I do.
Oh, so NOW it's ok to compare intels last gen CPUs to AMDs current gens? orly
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