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Originally Posted by JE Nightmare View Post
this thread needs this quote...
Yea, John makes stupid posts like that it seems. Can't afford to produce a chip that performs as well as Intels for the same price but Intel can? Are they selling for a loss? I don't think so. Saying you could release a chip twice as fast for 5 Grand or whatever doesn't help the situation.

Just like his quote of "oh yeah? well since you don't have an AMD logo in your sig it looks like we never had you as a customer anyways!!!"

Even though the person he was referring to had an AMD rig as well. This is an enthusiast site, most enthusiasts opt for the faster processors.
post #62 of 163
I want some neck & neck competition between Intel and AMD... Bulldozer best be as good as the I7. If not, hopefully they'll be champ OC'ers.

Waiting for you, Bulldozer... I need to replace this bottlenecked rig I got.
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Thats only partially correct.
http://www.overclock.net/general-pro...-i7-games.html

http://www.pureoverclock.com/review.php?id=794&page=4

http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid...=expert&pid=10
gf
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Oh, so NOW it's ok to compare intels last gen CPUs to AMDs current gens? orly
The same comparison holds before Sandy was released. Retail price on 1366 CPUs haven't gone much of anywhere even since before the XMas specials. Keep trying to frame it so AMD wins this, I enjoy watching you try.
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The same comparison holds before Sandy was released. Retail price on 1366 CPUs haven't gone much of anywhere even since before the XMas specials.
Lest we forget, though, that AMD's 6 cores are STILL cheaper than most (if not all) worthy i7s at the moment, and aren't out performed by nearly as much as the community makes it out to be. Benchmarks mean NOTHING and do NOT translate to how well hardware will perform in every day use. Not only that, but the thuban processors actually beat the quad i7s in things like rendering etc, which is what anyone who buys a thuban for that price would (or at least should) be looking at.
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I want some neck & neck competition between Intel and AMD... Bulldozer best be as good as the I7. If not, hopefully they'll be champ OC'ers.

Waiting for you, Bulldozer... I need to replace this bottlenecked rig I got.
Bottlnecked rig? Where? A phenom II quad is no bottleneck to a 5770.
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Originally Posted by BlackVenom View Post
I want some neck & neck competition between Intel and AMD... Bulldozer best be as good as the I7. If not, hopefully they'll be champ OC'ers.

Waiting for you, Bulldozer... I need to replace this bottlenecked rig I got.
I just hope Dirk Meyers resignation doesn't have anything to do with Bulldozer/Sandy Bridge.

And yes, I realize AMDs business is much, much larger than the home PC market, but the timing is a bit worrying.

Josh: Lol. Thanks for pointing that out. The word "bottlenecked" is used far too frequently and usually incorrectly on this forum. Notice he's also playing on a 23" display, so likely 1080p. The Phenom is fine BlackVenom. Upgrade the GPU with that money and enjoy : )
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Lest we forget, though, that AMD's 6 cores are STILL cheaper than most (if not all) worthy i7s at the moment, and aren't out performed by nearly as much as the community makes it out to be. Benchmarks mean NOTHING and do NOT translate to how well hardware will perform in every day use. Not only that, but the thuban processors actually beat the quad i7s in things like rendering etc, which is what anyone who buys a thuban for that price would (or at least should) be looking at.
It depends on the software. For my usage 8 threads easily bests 6 cores, and can run in a much wider thermal range, the extra memory bandwidth is also a win.

It depends on the software.

First you say better in benches...then you say benches don't matter. Keep on trying.
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It depends on the software. For my usage 8 threads easily bests 6 cores, and can run in a much wider thermal range, the extra memory bandwidth is also a win.

It depends on the software.

First you say better in benches...then you say benches don't matter. Keep on trying.
Keep on trolling. I'm the only voice of reason between the two of us. I own both platforms, I consider my opinion more valid. Seriously though, rendering isn't a benchmark. It really isn't. I do that crap every day, it's every day usage for me. Pull that proverbial foot out of your mouth and walk away son.
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Keep on trolling. I'm the only voice of reason between the two of us. I own both platforms, I consider my opinion more valid.
I own both too. I moved my 1055T/GA-790XT-UD4P to my brother's rig to upgrade his Wolfdale dual-core rig. You're free to consider whatever you want.
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