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Sooo much wrong info in this thread...
PCI-E 1.0 x16=PCI-E 2.0 x8 = around 2% frame rate loss on a GTX480.

In other words, you will lose a tiny amount of speed from the old slot, but it will work perfectly fine.

Go for the 570 tho, it's a great card and will leave your 285 in the dust for far less money than the 580.

sound advice.
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Put the money you would use for the 580 and put it in a savings account. The put a little more each month in it and get Ivy Bridge when it comes out.

go to the intel forum with that "wait for ivy bridge" non-sense. the op asked about a video card.
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I would definitely stay at what you have right now, save some more money, and do a complete overhaul in a few months. Components drop in price so dramatically, by the time you are ready to upgrade, you'll have a better selection in components and prices. I am not that well versed in what bottlenecks what, but some of the fellas that have given you advice seem to know what they are talking about.
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Agreed... Which is why I mentioned the GTX 470. It's a beast and for the price nothing touches it.
I second that. Gtx470 ftw. Price is excellent. Card is superb. Best deal out there right now, IMO.

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I've been holding off on buying the GTX 580, but playing some recent games (namely Battlefield 3) made me realize that my GTX 285 simply can't hack it anymore and I think now is the time to make the switch.

Just a few questions:

1) the card length - is it longer than my 285 cause I'm not sure if it'll fit in my case?

2) like I mentioned previously my PSU has two 6-pin connectors. Will I still be able to connect the new card even though it needs one 8-pin connector?
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I've been holding off on buying the GTX 580, but playing some recent games (namely Battlefield 3) made me realize that my GTX 285 simply can't hack it anymore and I think now is the time to make the switch.

Just a few questions:

1) the card length - is it longer than my 285 cause I'm not sure if it'll fit in my case?

2) like I mentioned previously my PSU has two 6-pin connectors. Will I still be able to connect the new card even though it needs one 8-pin connector?
Wow, you waited 10 months... 3 more and the new 28nm gen will be out. The 30% smaller process + Hi-K transistors, and of course architecture improvements should mean GPUs almost twice as fast as this gen. That said, if you need a GPU now, buy one now.

1) They're both 10.5 inch cards

2) the 8 pin connector isn't just for show, it's because the card can theoretically draw more power than the 6+6 can support. If you're interested in overclocking the GPU at all, get a 2x 6 pin -> 8 pin, or some kind of multi-molex -> 8 pin adapter.

edit: I'd really choose the 570 over the 580 and save $150, especially in your system. Unless you have a top of the line CPU w/ a huge resolution you're going to get the same gameplay experience with a 570 and a 580. My OCd 480 (== to a 570) maxes out BF3 at 1920x1200 with 4x AA and medium post AA and holds a steady 50-60FPS.
Edited by mechtech - 11/9/11 at 4:34am
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edit: I'd really choose the 570 over the 580 and save $150, especially in your system. Unless you have a top of the line CPU w/ a huge resolution you're going to get the same gameplay experience with a 570 and a 580. My OCd 480 (== to a 570) maxes out BF3 at 1920x1200 with 4x AA and medium post AA and holds a steady 50-60FPS.

Yeah, I've been doing some research and it seems like the GTX 570 is a much wiser choice.

This one
in particular caught my eye.

Not only is it already overclocked, but it's also shorter than a standard 570 and it doesn't need an 8-pin connector.
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post #47 of 50
The 580 is way more expensive but only offers a marginal increase in performance over the 570. Definitely not worth it IMO. I really think the 580 is just for people that have tons of money to blow and simply want the best.
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I'm finally getting the card next week - not the 570, but the 580. I've looked around and I found a few local shops offering the Zotac GTX 580 card for less than what the MSI GTX 570 Twin Frozr III OC is going for.

I opened the case today to study all of the PSU cables and I have a few questions:

1) My PSU has two 6-pin cables, definitely no 8-pins anywhere in there. However, I did find a single 4-pin cable. What is that used for?

2) Is this the right way to connect the card - connect the two 6-pin cables into the 6-pin to 8-pin adapter and then connect two molex cables into the dual 4-pin molex to 6-pin adapter.
Would that work? I have an unused molex daisy chain which I can use. smile.gif

3) My PSU has 4 12V rails:
12V1 - 15A
12V2 - 15A
12V3 - 15A
12V4 - 15A

Am I right to assume that it has 60a on the 12V rail altogether?
Edited by Smoker25 - 12/4/11 at 7:30am
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Have you considered the returns in performance versus the cost of the 580 and the 570. At the resolution you are running you will see at most a 10fps bump going from a 570 to a 580. Now i was achieving that much of a bump from a fairly easy overclock when i was running a single 570SC. If you were running a 2560x1440 or higher resolution and needed to eek out every last bit of processing power you could then yes, i would probably recommend a 3GB 580, or in that case, two. However, you are running a 1920x1200 resolution monitor and a P35 board. If you are getting a 570, you should be looking at the 2.5GB HD. What i would do in your case is get a single 2.5GB 570 and later on get a second one, or, if the 6xx series is impressive enough, get a single 670 or 680 depending on performance and price differences at the time.

Now you mentioned wanting the ability to max out all your games and no matter if you get a 570 or a 580 you will not be able to do that. It will require two of either card to achieve those settings on the newest games.

Considering you are running 1920x1200 you should be looking at the 2.5GB and 3GB cards and the cost difference between SLI 580's and SLI 570's is $400 which is pretty drastic considering you are looking at a bump equivalent to that of an easily achievable overclock. Regardless of whether or not you have any desire to overclock, the cost difference in my mind could not possibly warrant the small gain in performance you are looking at.
 
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