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Originally Posted by Axon14 View Post
OCZ has a notoriously bad reputation with RAM so, not shocking. Their SSD line got in with a large OEM, did it not? They don't need the headache anymore IMO.
Ocz has 3 contracts as far as I know, for an OEM presence.
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Originally Posted by guyladouche View Post
I would think that per-module of "higher performance" parts, there is higher profit per item. But the market base is MUCH more limited, it doesn't seem like a profitable move by any means (and apparently it wasn't...).
The problem is that low end DRAM uses the same IC's as high end DRAM quiet often. That's why people explode when you say a $80 kit is using Micron D9JNM IC's. Because those IC's are known to clock well and are used on high end kits.

So with DRAM you get a higher profit margin on the high end kits.

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Originally Posted by AFQ View Post
I know about that but their rep told me this today that they are only leaving low and mid end market!!
He's either misinformed or not an actual OCZ rep.

The CEO, stated yesterday, that OCZ is pulling out of the DRAM market entirely.
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The problem is that low end DRAM uses the same IC's as high end DRAM quiet often. That's why people explode when you say a $80 kit is using Micron D9JNM IC's. Because those IC's are known to clock well and are used on high end kits.

So with DRAM you get a higher profit margin on the high end kits.
True--I guess what I'm curious about is what the consumer base is for their designated "higher-end" market and "everyone else." I would still think that there's more revenue to be had in the "everyone else" market, regardless of the fact that you make more profit per module in the "higher-end" market.
    
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I know about that but their rep told me this today that they are only leaving low and mid end market!!
Who do you think knows more about the direction the company is moving towards? The "rep" or the CEO of OCZ?
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Good riddance. I hope it stays that way. I feel like the ram market is a little cleaner now..... one of the skid marks on its underwear is gone.
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ive never seen a good review for OCZ ram...usually DOA or catastrophically dead. probably saves alot of returns and customers.

Still they should consider themselves lucky they can dittch the red herring of "gaming RAM" and enter into other PC accessorie, ect. hell mouse,keyboard market is gettin a tiny bit dry with the recent "Razor or nothing" sweep lol. Would say cooling but that seems to be a bust,boom market atm.
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I haven't used any OCZ components whatsoever for a while now. I've had one OCZ power supply, and maybe 2-3 ram kits from them, but after that I moved on to better stuff (Seasonic PSUs, and Corsair/G.Skill ram)
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Originally Posted by DuckieHo View Post
OCZ gets their NAND from Toshiba, Samsung, and Intel/Micron.

Toshiba, Samsung, Intel, and Micron are all much bigger companies, sell SDDs, and produce NAND. They all could crush OCZ if they improve marketing and controllers.
It's funny that you would even mention a assembly company like OCZ to true manufacturing giants like Toshiba, Samsung, Intel and Micron. These companies exist to supply companies like OCZ with parts to assemble their own products. They won't crush OCZ or businesses like them because a good portion of their business is gained from selling OEM to. And there would definitely be anti-trust issues as well.

Those four companies could crush a LOT of competition in the computer market. Imagine if Samsung stopped selling flat panel displays to other manufacturers, Intel only sold their CPU/GPUs with their own motherboards and if Micron and Toshiba didn't sell their chips or other products to other manufacturers...
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It's funny that you would even mention a assembly company like OCZ to true manufacturing giants like Toshiba, Samsung, Intel and Micron. These companies exist to supply companies like OCZ with parts to assemble their own products. They won't crush OCZ or businesses like them because a good portion of their business is gained from selling OEM to. And there would definitely be anti-trust issues as well.

Those four companies could crush a LOT of competition in the computer market. Imagine if Samsung stopped selling flat panel displays to other manufacturers, Intel only sold their CPU/GPUs with their own motherboards and if Micron and Toshiba didn't sell their chips or other products to other manufacturers...
Of course... but these manufacturing giants also sell their own SSDs. My response was to Tator's that other companies do have the resources to push into the SSD market hard. OCZ may be doing well in the market but if any of these bigger companies ever focus on SSDs, OCZ would feel the pressure. However, these big companies know there is a place for OEM and partners.


i.e. Kingston was selling the rebranded 40GB X25-V for $90 before Intel came out with it for $130. If Intel wanted to dominate that market on volume, they probably could have sold it for $80 or less from the beginning. They choose not to.
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This is sad. I dont have any problem with their rams aside from the poor overclocking capability. I used OCZ rams because they were cheap and look nice but they're arent so competitive anymore..After this, OCZ will soon be completely gone, I think.
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