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ANALYSIS — Twitter introduced a new feature last month without telling anyone about it, and the rest of the tech world should take note and come up with their own version of it.

Twitter beta-tested a spine.

On Friday it emerged that the U.S. government recently got a court order demanding that Twitter turn over information about a number of people connected to WikiLeaks, including founder Julian Assange, accused leaker Pfc. Bradley Manning, former WikiLeaks spokeswoman Birgitta Jonsdottir, and WikiLeaks activist Jacob Appelbaum.
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WELL DONE TWITTER!

Didn't see it posted after a search for twitter in all the news catagories.
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free speech doesnt cover leaking classified documents.
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Originally Posted by Vhati View Post
free speech doesnt cover leaking classified documents.
That's not what it seems to fall under. It seems to fall under Freedom of the Press.
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free speech doesnt cover leaking classified documents.
Mmmmmm it actually does. If you have classified information (for example, you murdered someone) the law WILL allow retrieving any information through probable cause. The same treatment should be put upon the government's classified information. WikiLeaks released quite a few documents revealing horrible things that our government has done. I support their cause.
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Regardless, Twitter deserves recognition for its principled upholding of the spirit of the First Amendment. It’s a shame that PayPal, Amazon, Visa, Mastercard, Bank of America and the U.S. government all failed — and continue to to fail — at their own versions of that test.
Oh ok, because deciding to dissociate with Wikileaks is totally not within these groups' own First Amendment Rights (arguably). They have no obligation to Wikileaks. Their goal is to do business, and that's exactly what they're doing.

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Then these services will be provided by entrepreneurs seeking profit, non profit organizations, or charities. Why can't people understand these are services, just like cable internet.
Are you familiar with Marcus Crassus' fire brigade? The private sect is by no means any more moral, just or respectable than the government. Further, in many cases I'd wager these services are public because they aren't profitable. And in order to make them profitable, the only way you'd get private parties interested, you'd start getting charged. Which we all already are through taxes, the difference being how exorbitant the charges would become when they're no longer distributed.

And you honestly think NPOs and charities have the kinds of capital to undertake such ventures? It's not as though they're free of corruption anyway.

Most people are good. Some bad people give entire organizations a bad name. Including the government. The difference is when Pepsi put out Pepsi clear it was just a bad business decision, but when the government rolls out a program that people don't like everyone takes it much more personally.
    
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Oh ok, because deciding to dissociate with Wikileaks is totally not within these groups' own First Amendment Rights (arguably). They have no obligation to Wikileaks. Their goal is to do business, and that's exactly what they're doing.
Yea but in defense of Twitter, their terms of service state that no member's personal information will be given out without prior notification to that member.

If they do one thing, (make the members aware that they are being looked into by the government) they're doing something bad and can get horrible fines for it since they had a gag order.

If they do the other thing (follow the gag order and don't bother telling the members about their information being provided to the government) they are then immoral and may be rightfully sued for violating their own agreement.

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Twitter and other companies, notably Google, have a policy of notifying a user before responding to a subpoena, or a similar request for records. That gives the user a fair chance to go to court and try and quash the subpoena. That’s a great policy. But it has one fatal flaw. If the records request comes with a gag order, the company can’t notify anyone. And it’s quite routine for law enforcement to staple a gag order to a records request.
They were in quite a predicament; obligated to notify their users by terms of agreement yet also prohibited to notify them by gag order.
Edited by Stealth Pyros - 1/11/11 at 12:48pm
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I love how facebook haven't said one word about this.

It doesn't mean they weren't served with a similar subpoena, it means they just gave in instantly.
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free speech doesnt cover leaking classified documents.
"We The People." We are the government. We can not and shall not classify our identity.
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I'm glad a company is able to stand up for its rights once in a while. Good job Twitter!

Offtopic:
Gov't controls the military or the military controls the gov't??? Hmmmm

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Good for them!
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