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Have not built a serious rig in years. Could use some input on this build

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Hello all. Like the title says I have not built a gaming rig in years. I have been browsing all of the computer parts and put together what I think to be a high quality rig. I would like to OC to the 4ghz area. Goals are any game out there to max everything.

Parts are as follows...
-CPU: AMD Phenom IIx6 1090T
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103849

-Motherboard: MSI 8990fxa-gd70
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130274

-RAM: G.SKILl Ripjaws 16GB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231314

-Hard Drive: 2x HD Intel X25-M 120gb SATA SSD in Raid 0
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820167035

-Vid card: 2x in Crossfire Radeon HD 5850 1GB FDDR5
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150477

Like I said, it's been a while. so if there is anything i'm missing besides the case/power supply, let me know. This total is around $1500, which isn't too bad considering the performance I might see. My current rig is over 3 years old so i'm sure this will blow me out of the water. This will be running win 7 64bit.

Thanks,
Matt
Edited by notoriouskeef - 1/11/11 at 11:35am
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5850's in crossfire are a bad move. *edit* by no means a "bad" move, but I would say not the wisest

Go for Gigabyte 6850's at that price - less power-draw/heat, huge overclock to 6870 levels, and crossfire performance that is the best bang for the buck available - people are seeing nearly 100% scaling on the 6000 series making a 6850 crossfire setup beat a 5970 convincingly in most situations and rivaling even GTX470 SLI in some cases. Overclocked to just above stock 6870 performance is even more making them the stand-out setup in their price range.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125348

Make sure it's the cheaper non-overclock model which has the better VRM CHiL chips in it.

Also you need an aftermarket heatsink/fan. Suggestions:

Cheap:
Corsair A50/70
Cooler Master Hyper 212
Scythe SCMG2100
Xigmatek 1283/1284 range

More expensive:
Noctua anything
Corsair h50/h70
TRUE
etc etc

Finally for gaming 16gb IS overkill. You'll hear that anything more than 4gb is overkill for gaming RELIGIOUSLY from people on here, as well as the notion that a Hex-core is overkill too.

DO NOT LISTEN TO THEM.

The Hex-core will overclock higher and cooler, and also has a better NB. Get it, games are starting already to use the 6-cores, just get it, period. Also, 4gb of RAM is becoming a hindrance now - get 8gb (2x4gb sticks), it'll help you in multi-tasking and everyday computing plus will be more "future-proof" as the next wave of top-level gaming settings begin requiring more PC grunt. Games like GTA IV, using more than 1gb of VRAM are already benefiting from having extra system RAM to share for texture storage, showing less pop-up and graphic glitches. 8gb is about to be the next gaming standard - beat the crowds.

This RAM is much nicer (has lower CL7 timings which I personally attest to making a large and perceivable difference in computing and gaming):
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231401

You will also want a 7200 rpm 1TB drive for running programs and games off (leaving your SSD's as OS and perhaps selective games), either a WD Black or a Samsung F3/4 drive (I prefer samsungs honestly). Or you could look at the Samsung F4 5400 2TB drives which are surprisingly fast in read/write speeds (rivaling my older WD Black 640gb 7200rpm).

Make sure you leave ample room on your SSD setup - they don't like running anywhere near full capacity (no drive does).
Edited by willibj - 1/11/11 at 11:56am
 
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with your money you can get this build :
Mobo + 8GB ram 294.98$
CPU+water cooler 394.98$ (-15$ MIR) both are very good friends and with a little effort will go to 5 Ghz on less then 1.4 voltage smile.gif
Video Card 299.99$ (+15$ MIR and + 8GB free flash drive) you can unlock this card to 6970 which costs 350$ right out of the box
SSD 40GB 94.99$ dont realy need more for running windows
full tower case + 850w PSU 216.98$ (-30$ MIR) you didnt specify case and psu in ur build so if you dont need them you can grab another 6950 for monster crossfire (assuming u have a 750w PSU or greater)
HDD 69.99$ (you can get this for 20 bucks cheaper at some other site i forgot which one )

grand total : 1,509$ including tax and shipping , 1,449$ after mail in rebates

sadly at the moment there is no AMD rig that can compete with this one in both games and apps frown.gif

patiently waiting for bulldozer
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1) you don't really need 16 GB, 8GB will suffice.

2) Even though Raid 0 on the ssd's would be great, what are you going to use for storage? Grab a 1TB drive for storage.
all that writing to the SSD's will degrade them quicker. SSD's have a finite amount of times they can be written so you don't want to burn them up quicker than necessary.

3) grab a pair of 6870's not 5850's, the 6870 will trounce the 5850's. Or better yet if you budget allows it grab a pair of 6950's and unlock them to a pair of 6970's

4) Are you thinking about overclocking, if so you may want to look into some better cooling than stock like the Thermalright Silver Arrow, Noctua NH-D14 or the likes.

Also with that being said you need to look at decent airflow cases. For a decent price I can recommend the CM 690 II Advanced.
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Originally Posted by RabbitGT;11973244 
with your money you can get this build :
Mobo + 8GB ram 294.98$
CPU+water cooler 394.98$ (-15$ MIR) both are very good friends and with a little effort will go to 5 Ghz on less then 1.4 voltage smile.gif
Video Card 299.99$ (+15$ MIR and + 8GB free flash drive) you can unlock this card to 6970 which costs 350$ right out of the box
SSD 40GB 94.99$ dont realy need more for running windows
full tower case + 850w PSU 216.98$ (-30$ MIR) you didnt specify case and psu in ur build so if you dont need them you can grab another 6950 for monster crossfire (assuming u have a 750w PSU or greater)
HDD 69.99$ (you can get this for 20 bucks cheaper at some other site i forgot which one )

grand total : 1,509$ including tax and shipping , 1,449$ after mail in rebates

sadly at the moment there is no AMD rig that can compete with this one in both games and apps frown.gif

patiently waiting for bulldozer

This is true - this rig will outperform the AMD one above.

I dislike the overclocking style and DRM potential in Sandybridge (worthy of thinking through) but there's no denying the performance you'll get.

Also the 6850's in crossfire will outperform the 6950/6970, stock or overclocked on both, but the upgrade path of 6900 series is clearly better.

The case comes down to personal taste - I hate it, I'm sure it could be replaced with a similarly priced PSU/Case combo easily.

Good build RabbitGT
 
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post #6 of 9
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Thank you for all the replies. Looks like I have to rethink this. I have a around a $1,700 budjet. I already have a couple tb hard drives for data storage. I've been reading a lot the last couple of days and it looks like the sandybridge is the way to go???

again, thanks for the help,
post #7 of 9
I would wait till bulldozer and then decide between bulldozer and sandy bridge
bulldozer is bound to have similar if not better performance for less monies
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Originally Posted by AK-47;12008019 
I would wait till bulldozer and then decide between bulldozer and sandy bridge
bulldozer is bound to have similar if not better performance for less monies

when is that suppose to be realeased? I'm still in Afghanistan for another month or so anyway. wink.gif
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Originally Posted by notoriouskeef;12008277 
when is that suppose to be realeased? I'm still in Afghanistan for another month or so anyway. wink.gif

its gonna take atleast 3-4 month after bulldozer is released for prices to get "stable" , im sure when it just gonna come out its gonna cost a bit more then sandy bridge
if ur in a market for a new pc now , get SB i7-2600k + asus p67 pro\evo , 4-8 GB ram , nice cooler and 2x 6950 , will blow any game away on max settings and 3 monitors smile.gif
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