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Having used XP 64 stay away from it. Go with Win 7. Very few drivers available for XP 64
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Infact I'm using Windows 7 Ultimate X64 - I just liked the look for XP but its all good.
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Wasn't there a community build of WinXP 64bit? Named Windows XP Black or something?
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A lot of fail in this thread. I don't know about 64bit, but 32bit XP is still a champ (for now).

My games run faster, my original XBox controller has drivers, my midi keyboard works better, and I don't lose CPU to useless backround services when I'm running 30+ VST plugins.

inb432bitand4gigsofram. My XP uses a 'whopping' 130MB of memory, and 7, after I cleaned up virtually every useless process, used ~900. You can do the math.

To the guy who hurr durredd, "XP is dead. 32Bit is dead. No one has any excuse these days to be using either" let me ask you something: if XP can do everything 7 can, but use less resources doing so, how is 7 even an upgrade?

No wonder Microsoft releases such **** OSes: you guys will buy anything that looks shiny. (lolmacs)
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A lot of fail in this thread. I don't know about 64bit, but 32bit XP is still a champ (for now).

My games run faster, my original XBox controller has drivers, my midi keyboard works better, and I don't lose CPU to useless backround services when I'm running 30+ VST plugins.

inb432bitand4gigsofram. My XP uses a 'whopping' 130MB of memory, and 7, after I cleaned up virtually every useless process, used ~900. You can do the math.

To the guy who hurr durredd, "XP is dead. 32Bit is dead. No one has any excuse these days to be using either" let me ask you something: if XP can do everything 7 can, but use less resources doing so, how is 7 even an upgrade?

No wonder Microsoft releases such **** OSes: you guys will buy anything that looks shiny. (lolmacs)
Windows 7 intelligently caches your most frequently used programs in RAM because idle RAM is wasted RAM. That is why it's so quick and speedy. If that RAM is actually required for a program, then it frees it up instantly.

Not that difficult to understand.

So stop spreading misinformation about it being a "resource hog".

XP does not run faster than Win 7 on your machine. It simply doesn't:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/2864

Also nice flametastic language. I'm sure you'll have a long stay on here
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A lot of fail in this thread. I don't know about 64bit, but 32bit XP is still a champ (for now).

My games run faster, my original XBox controller has drivers, my midi keyboard works better, and I don't lose CPU to useless backround services when I'm running 30+ VST plugins.

inb432bitand4gigsofram. My XP uses a 'whopping' 130MB of memory, and 7, after I cleaned up virtually every useless process, used ~900. You can do the math.

To the guy who hurr durredd, "XP is dead. 32Bit is dead. No one has any excuse these days to be using either" let me ask you something: if XP can do everything 7 can, but use less resources doing so, how is 7 even an upgrade?

No wonder Microsoft releases such **** OSes: you guys will buy anything that looks shiny. (lolmacs)
So much fail in this post - except for the "lolMacs" comment

Win7 has so many usability enhancements. Much more than simply a shiny new interface. Jumplists, desktop previews, libraries, window snapping.......

As for 32bit being fine, in many cases it is. I regularly use more RAM than I'd be able to in a 32 bit system and that's with photoshop, not even video editing!
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Windows 7 intelligently caches your most frequently used programs in RAM because idle RAM is wasted RAM. That is why it's so quick and speedy. If that RAM is actually required for a program, then it frees it up instantly.

Not that difficult to understand.
No, it's really not. I was referring to start-up usage, though - should've specified. If Windows 7 'caches' programs at start-up, that's got to be the dumbest idea I've ever heard.

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So stop spreading misinformation about it being a "resource hog".

XP does not run faster than Win 7 on your machine. It simply doesn't:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/2864
You posted a link with a comparison to an outdated version of XP? lolwut.

http://www.testfreaks.com/blog/infor...vs-vista-vs-7/

But yeah, like OMG, it totally does!

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Also nice flametastic language. I'm sure you'll have a long stay on here
Maybe I just need a hug. Interested?

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So much fail in this post - except for the "lolMacs" comment


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Win7 has so many usability enhancements. Much more than simply a shiny new interface. Jumplists, desktop previews, libraries, window snapping.......
See, in my opinion, Microsoft is trying too hard to one-up OSX. Instead of focusing on proper, and relatively bug-free architecture, they're wasting time on creating useless functionality. If you find XP hard to use, you shouldn't even be near a PC.

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As for 32bit being fine, in many cases it is. I regularly use more RAM than I'd be able to in a 32 bit system and that's with photoshop, not even video editing!
Actually, that's pretty much the only reason I still have 32bit: no need for more than 4GB of RAM; however if the time came that I would need to upgrade to 8, I will surely switch to 7 (or 8 if it comes out).
Edited by Primus - 1/11/11 at 5:51pm
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double post :S.
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post #19 of 27
Windows xp is ancient...


Stay away from it at all costs.


Its time for windows 7 64 bit
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A lot of fail in this thread. I don't know about 64bit, but 32bit XP is still a champ (for now).

My games run faster, my original XBox controller has drivers, my midi keyboard works better, and I don't lose CPU to useless backround services when I'm running 30+ VST plugins.

inb432bitand4gigsofram. My XP uses a 'whopping' 130MB of memory, and 7, after I cleaned up virtually every useless process, used ~900. You can do the math.

To the guy who hurr durredd, "XP is dead. 32Bit is dead. No one has any excuse these days to be using either" let me ask you something: if XP can do everything 7 can, but use less resources doing so, how is 7 even an upgrade?

No wonder Microsoft releases such **** OSes: you guys will buy anything that looks shiny. (lolmacs)
Firstly, lolmacs...

Secondly, I know you said inb4, but I don't care. You can only use 3 and a bit Gb of your ram. Also, all your 32bit programs can only access 2Gb of ram.

You forget the community to which you post sir. Anyone on this website has no business building a new rig with XP. XP hasn't been sold in shops for over a year now, and hasn't been installed as OEM on ANY new device since the end of October 2010.

You also won't be getting any updates for your precious dinosaur of an OS. Support for Joe Public ended over a year ago, and commercial support ends in 2014. Even now, there are potentially fatal bugs and exploits in XP that MS simply don't care about and will not fix because XP is dead. The whole 'viruses hiding in icons' fiasco (of which Win7 wasn't affected) springs to mind.

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What is the difference between Mainstream Support and Extended Support?

Mainstream Support—Microsoft will offer Mainstream Support for a minimum of 5 years from the date of a product's general availability, or for 2 years after the successor product is released, whichever is longer. For example, if you buy a new version of Windows and five years later another version is released, you will still have two years of support left for the previous version.

Extended Support—Microsoft will offer Extended Support for either a minimum of 5 years from the date of a product's general availability, or for 2 years after the second successor product (two versions later) is released, whichever is longer. Please note: Extended Support is only available for commercial customers.
So we get to the point of XP not doing everything Win7 can. DX10 or greater and security of the OS itself are just a couple of examples.

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If Windows 7 'caches' programs at start-up, that's got to be the dumbest idea I've ever heard.
We can only be grateful that you aren't a dev for MS. Just because you personally can't see the point, (even if it's painfully obvious) doesn't mean there is no point.

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You posted a link with a comparison to an outdated version of XP? lolwut.
And why not? Afaik, there were no major or even minor architectural changes to the memory management or any other systems going from SP2 to SP3. Just a bunch of bugfixes. But hey, use what you can to defend you point of view right?

And speaking of bugs, Windows 7 has been the most bug free version I've ever seen. I'd go so far as to say its better than XP sp3. I've had more problems installing XP sp3 than I have had installing 7. And I install 7 a lot.

Finally, sure 32Bit still has its place. Netbooks and tablets. That is all. No other computing device capable of running windows that is on sale today has any excuse to be on anything other than 64 bit.
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