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Originally Posted by Primus View Post
A lot of fail in this thread. I don't know about 64bit, but 32bit XP is still a champ (for now).

My games run faster, my original XBox controller has drivers, my midi keyboard works better, and I don't lose CPU to useless backround services when I'm running 30+ VST plugins.

inb432bitand4gigsofram. My XP uses a 'whopping' 130MB of memory, and 7, after I cleaned up virtually every useless process, used ~900. You can do the math.

To the guy who hurr durredd, "XP is dead. 32Bit is dead. No one has any excuse these days to be using either" let me ask you something: if XP can do everything 7 can, but use less resources doing so, how is 7 even an upgrade?

No wonder Microsoft releases such **** OSes: you guys will buy anything that looks shiny. (lolmacs)
Yea and windows 3.1 uses less memory then that, why don't you go use that?

guess what, windows xp uses such low amounts of ram, because when it was designed, a computer having 1gb of ram was amazing, and if they used much more then 130~ mb of ram, it would cause issues with all the computers at the time that had 256mb of ram or less.

Now we have so much ram, that an OS can use 900mb and it isn't a big deal.

I have 8gb of ram, you really think I can if my OS uses 900mb? it isn't just using ram for no reason, it is actually doing stuff with that ram you know.
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You forget the community to which you post sir. Anyone on this website has no business building a new rig with XP. XP hasn't been sold in shops for over a year now, and hasn't been installed as OEM on ANY new device since the end of October 2010.

You also won't be getting any updates for your precious dinosaur of an OS. Support for Joe Public ended over a year ago, and commercial support ends in 2014. Even now, there are potentially fatal bugs and exploits in XP that MS simply don't care about and will not fix because XP is dead. The whole 'viruses hiding in icons' fiasco (of which Win7 wasn't affected) springs to mind.
Really? Tell me more! I haven't used an anti-virus in 7 years. Have I gotten viruses? Nope! According to your logic I should be infested, but I'm not. BTW, just installed a new update to fix an exploit on my 'dinosaur of an OS'; **** was so cash.

And viruses hiding in icons? lawl.

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So we get to the point of XP not doing everything Win7 can. DX10 or greater and security of the OS itself are just a couple of examples.
First of all, if you think DX10 or 11 are anything but hyped up, useless, and brainwashing Microsoft products, you need to quickly donate your body to science.

Second of all, the security of 7 is not greater than XP. This is absolutely ridiculous. XP is being phased out. Why would anyone make viruses for an outdated OS that a lot of people aren't using anymore? In my mind that would be a complete waste of time; maybe not in yours.

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We can only be grateful that you aren't a dev for MS. Just because you personally can't see the point, (even if it's painfully obvious) doesn't mean there is no point.
Ad hominem attacks, tsk tsk.

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And why not? Afaik, there were no major or even minor architectural changes to the memory management or any other systems going from SP2 to SP3. Just a bunch of bugfixes. But hey, use what you can to defend you point of view right?
Oh, I can? Thanks!

http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/...ance/page2.asp
http://www.paulspoerry.com/2009/08/1...vs-vista-vs-7/

Lemme know if you need any more.

BTW, SP3 performs way better than SP2 when using more than one core. Looks up some benches, FFS.

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And speaking of bugs, Windows 7 has been the most bug free version I've ever seen. I'd go so far as to say its better than XP sp3. I've had more problems installing XP sp3 than I have had installing 7. And I install 7 a lot.

Finally, sure 32Bit still has its place. Netbooks and tablets. That is all. No other computing device capable of running windows that is on sale today has any excuse to be on anything other than 64 bit.
You must have a a golden 7 or something. 7 for me was the ultimate in bugs. I couldn't run half of my games, nor could I run Windows for more than 10 mins without getting BSODs galore.

Look, I'm not saying 7 is bad; however, regardless of how many times you've listened to the MS Windows 7 hypnosis tape, you can't argue that it's premature. XP was the exact same when it came out, and now it's a great OS. I'm sure if MS doesn't go through 8 copies of Windows in the next 4 years, 7 can achieve the same greatness.

I'm also not saying XP should be used by everyone. Obviously if you have more than 4GB of RAM, XP is completely useless (so is the crappy 64bit version). But, stop acting like 7 is the greatest thing to the PC since Russian pr0n; people also said the same thing about Vista, then when 7 came out everyone was all, "ohlol, wii changed our mindz, 7 is moar better..."

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Now we have so much ram, that an OS can use 900mb and it isn't a big deal.

I have 8gb of ram, you really think I can if my OS uses 900mb? it isn't just using ram for no reason, it is actually doing stuff with that ram you know.
So, your argument is that you have more than enough RAM, so it's ok if 1/8 is wasted? Wow, I think you've discovered the thinest argument.

Have you ever checked what that 1+GB is being used for?
Edited by Primus - 1/11/11 at 11:15pm
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post #23 of 27
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You posted a link with a comparison to an outdated version of XP? lolwut.

http://www.testfreaks.com/blog/infor...vs-vista-vs-7/

But yeah, like OMG, it totally does!
And you post Windows 7 beta vs XP.

Cool troll attempt bro.
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And you post Windows 7 beta vs XP.

Cool troll attempt bro.
Yeah, it's called irony. Cool, huh? I always like to bring a little humour/satire to a debate.
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Ive heard that XP 64bit was the buggiest most unreliable OS release of recent memory. I would avoid it. 64bit versions of Win7, Vista, and so on are fine from what I have seen.
XP x64 is based on 2003 Server code, how can i be unreliable?
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Ive heard that XP 64bit was the buggiest most unreliable OS release of recent memory. I would avoid it. 64bit versions of Win7, Vista, and so on are fine from what I have seen.
Well, in my experience it depends on the HW.

I have a system that has been running XP 64 bit for more than 3 years without a single bug or crash. This system runs Photoshop and other drawing tools and at the time I needed XP 64 bit so I could use 16gb of memory. The only issue I have ever had with it, is driver support. Most of the time you can use server 2003 64bit drivers but things like my MIDI adapter are not supported.

In the end, I have been happy with XP 64 (as it allowed me to use all my memory), but today I would just use windows 7 x64.
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For those like myself unwilling to switch to 64-bit windows (mind you, this has nothing to do with anti-progress at all), other os systems are available, mostly for free (freebsd, linux distros etc). That is if you have the mood for experimentation.
Of course i speak as a casual user.
I was lucky enough to see amigaos and atarist in action prior to windows dominance, both by professionals and gamers. in fact some are used still today. so nothing is lost if you dont use windows. I am not impressed by microsofts awe.

Anyone is free to choose his own os and software.
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