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Core i7 Bloomfield/Gulftown or Core i7 Sandy Bridge?

Poll Results: i7 1336 setup or i7 1155 setup?

 
  • 16% (9)
    i7 Bloomfield/Gulftown (i7 950)
  • 57% (31)
    i7 Sandy Bridge (2600k)
  • 25% (14)
    Wait for the Ivy Bridges
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post #1 of 20
Thread Starter 
So I've been looking in the market to buy a new setup for a while now. For the longest time, I had my sights set on a i7 950. But then Intel decides to release their new second generation Sandy Bridge i7 processors, which has left me with other choices aside from the 950 I've been wanting for so long.

I've done some searching on the interwebs, and I've read up on some things, such as comparisons and benchmarks between the two processors. But the results seem skewed for certain sites, so I'm left in the dust with no viable benchmarking results or comparisons.

I know that the 1155 processors are meant to replace the 1156s and aren't really meant to replace the 1366 CPUs. I also realize that the Sandy Bridge series is meant to be a mainstream consumer product, whereas the Bloomfield/Gulftown series is meant to be an enthusiast consumer product. However, from what I've gathered, the 2600ks are very much comparable to a lot of the 1336s. Some even state that the 2600ks are comparable to the i7 980x due to its advanced overclocking capabilities. Although I'm finding this hard to believe since the Gulftown 980xs are six-core processors, as opposed to the four-core Sandy Bridge processors.

Other things I've gathered is that the performance of the 2600ks vary greatly on the motherboards that are coupled with it (more so than your standard CPU/Mobo coupling). Such as the integrated graphics not working, the CPU multiplier not working, etc. Making research for the motherboards that much more tedious.

The new 2011 (socket type) Ivy Bridge series will surely knock the last gen enthusiast i7s out of the ball park, but I'm not sure if I'm willing to wait a whole year for them to release.


tl;dr: So, for those of you familiar with all the latest and greatest computer technology has to offer, I ask you: Should I buy a 1366 Bloomfield setup (Core i7 950) and then upgrade to a Gulftown processor later down the road (Core i7 Extreme) or should I get a 1155 2600k setup? Or should I really wait a whole year for the new Ivy Bridges?

Note: I'll mostly use it for high-end gaming and some simple video/photo editing. I have a Radeon 6870 that I plan on SLi'ng sometime in the near future, if that makes any difference.

The only reason I'd get the 950 is because of the 1366 socket. Eventually, those 980xs are going to go down in price. And when they do, I'm going to get one (if I go the 1366 route) I'm just wondering if those 980x have a huge significant advantage over the 2600ks. And whether or not it's worth sticking to the older 1366 technology.
Edited by X-Legend - 1/11/11 at 5:44pm
post #2 of 20
1336? It's 1366.

I'd opt for the newer 2600k, hearing good things of them.
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post #3 of 20
Thread Starter 
^ Indeed it is. I'm not sure why I said 1336.

What kind of things? I'd like as much specifics as possible.

I really need a new setup as soon as possible. I'm not sure how stable my current setup is (don't ask). If I'm to wait for the Ivy Bridges, I'm going to need some pretty damn good reasons. So for those of you who're voting wait for Ivy Bridge, I'd like to hear your thoughts on the matter.
Edited by X-Legend - 1/11/11 at 5:48pm
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You should and see what's up with sandy bridge -en processors coming out later this year
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I have both a 980X Gulftown and a 2500K Sandy Bridge in my Folding@Home farm. They run 100% 24x7. I have studied numerous reviews and been briefed by Intel. Here's how I would build a decision tree for you:

Raw CPU Power: A 2500K is about the same as an i7-930 in folding. That's better than any Core 2, but about 75% of an i7-870 (socket 1156). Threads matter, and 2500K does not have them.

One-Monitor Gamer If you're a gamer with a single video card and one monitor up to 1080p, then Sandy Bridge P67 will suit you fine. If you need more than two graphics cards, you're probably going to hit a PCIe barrier; look to socket 1366 for more PCIe options.

Overclocker Sandy Bridge chips overclock on air up to about 5 GHz. Say, 4+ GHz at near stock voltages (you do want your chip to still work in a year, I presume). Takes about 2 minutes to bump the multipliers, and you're off to the races. Tradeoff: you have to buy a P67 motherboard and a K-suffix chip; you lose the neat video transcoding QuickSync capabilities available in a no-overclock-allowed H67 motherboard with integrated graphics. Or wait until February when the Z67 motherboards come out that support integrated graphics and K-sufffix overclocking. Confused? Yes, Intel did fog that up.

Video Processing Sandy Bridge, for sure, for video transcoding recorded TV down to iPhone, for example. Transcoding is hardware-assisted on Sandy Bridge. But socket 1366 for serious video editing/processing applications that need more memory, memory bandwidth, and hyperthreading.

Notebooks Sandy Bridge quad core will kill Arrandale on performance per watt. Make sure you get a quad-code SB to enjoy the experience.

General Multitasking Sandy Bridge is like a turbo four-cylinder to the V8 of Core i7 and the V12 of a 980X Gulftown. Most desk workers including compute-hogs will like the quiet performance capabilities of Sandy Bridge.

Value Tons of computing value in Sandy Bridge. In a few weeks, when intro prices drop down to lower levels, you'll get almost all of 1366 performance, or more, for less dollars. SB totally obsoletes socket 1156 and 775 on value.

Hope that helps,
- Catalina588
post #6 of 20
Excellent post, however perhaps the video transcoding portion does not apply to him. if he has a decent video card they all do that as well, typically faster than the intel graphics as well.
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post #7 of 20
Quote:
Originally Posted by Catalina588 View Post
I have both a 980X Gulftown and a 2500K Sandy Bridge in my Folding@Home farm. They run 100% 24x7. I have studied numerous reviews and been briefed by Intel. Here's how I would build a decision tree for you:

Raw CPU Power: A 2500K is about the same as an i7-930 in folding. That's better than any Core 2, but about 75% of an i7-870 (socket 1156). Threads matter, and 2500K does not have them.

One-Monitor Gamer If you're a gamer with a single video card and one monitor up to 1080p, then Sandy Bridge P67 will suit you fine. If you need more than two graphics cards, you're probably going to hit a PCIe barrier; look to socket 1366 for more PCIe options.

Overclocker Sandy Bridge chips overclock on air up to about 5 GHz. Say, 4+ GHz at near stock voltages (you do want your chip to still work in a year, I presume). Takes about 2 minutes to bump the multipliers, and you're off to the races. Tradeoff: you have to buy a P67 motherboard and a K-suffix chip; you lose the neat video transcoding QuickSync capabilities available in a no-overclock-allowed H67 motherboard with integrated graphics. Or wait until February when the Z67 motherboards come out that support integrated graphics and K-sufffix overclocking. Confused? Yes, Intel did fog that up.

Video Processing Sandy Bridge, for sure, for video transcoding recorded TV down to iPhone, for example. Transcoding is hardware-assisted on Sandy Bridge. But socket 1366 for serious video editing/processing applications that need more memory, memory bandwidth, and hyperthreading.

Notebooks Sandy Bridge quad core will kill Arrandale on performance per watt. Make sure you get a quad-code SB to enjoy the experience.

General Multitasking Sandy Bridge is like a turbo four-cylinder to the V8 of Core i7 and the V12 of a 980X Gulftown. Most desk workers including compute-hogs will like the quiet performance capabilities of Sandy Bridge.

Value Tons of computing value in Sandy Bridge. In a few weeks, when intro prices drop down to lower levels, you'll get almost all of 1366 performance, or more, for less dollars. SB totally obsoletes socket 1156 and 775 on value.

Hope that helps,
- Catalina588
absolutely correct......pretty good for a new comer.....
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post #8 of 20
Honestly, the way i see it - if u already have 1366 based pc - than there is no reason to upgrade cause real life performance difference is too low to notice, but if you are building new system from the scratch - SB is the way to go. Why? Much Much lower power consumption and temperatures:
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Personally I have brand new factory sealed i7 960 (3.2Ghz) that i bought about month ago. I decided to attempt to sell it to buy SB but if it doesn't sell soon enough i'll just keep it with no regrets cause with SB i wouldn't gain much performance anyways.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ekg84 View Post
Honestly, the way i see it - if u already have 1366 based pc - than there is no reason to upgrade cause real life performance difference is too low to notice, but if you are building new system from the scratch - SB is the way to go. Why? Much Much lower power consumption and temperatures:
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Personally I have brand new factory sealed i7 960 (3.2Ghz) that i bought about month ago. I decided to attempt to sell it to buy SB but if it doesn't sell soon enough i'll just keep it with no regrets cause with SB i wouldn't gain much performance anyways.
What's your opinion on AM3 to 1155? =P
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What's your opinion on AM3 to 1155? =P
Upgrade from am3 to 1155? I think its reasonable, am3 cpus, even 6-core ones in general are slower than lynnfields. Moving from am3 to 1155 would give significant boost in performance therefore IMO am3 to 1155 is a good idea.
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