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Meh, damage is done, Sony...

EDIT: Maybe they'll get him on infringement...
Edited by BlackVenom - 1/12/11 at 6:24am
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post #72 of 169
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Originally Posted by Zinxe View Post
I am purposely double posting because my previous post will more and likely be deleted, and I don't want all I have to say to go down with it.

Well, you deserve to have a key to your "room", not to the "house". Think of it as more of a bed and breakfast, or hotel if you will. While I agree we deserve more access, we don't deserve to have too much where as we can forge a signature. I'm all for having the ability to customize firmware, what I am against is the inevitable piracy. Devs don't want to spend resources making a game that will be pirated to the point of no profits. That is one of the reasons I believe PC gaming is so weak, not just that consoles are "cheaper" or just "standard". While those are big factors, having your game pirated is another.



Oh come on... the linux for PS3 was trash, why is it such a big deal? Plus, I'm not 100% on this, but I believe they removed it to prevent piracy. Which, I suppose is ironic now. As for the PS2 compatibility... Yes, I can see that being upsetting. Older models still support it, so I am assuming it was to make the newer models cheaper.


This is a multibillion dollar corporation vs a small group of kids with an ill placed hobby... I'm sure Sony just might have the upper hand here.
According to your logic, if Sony decides tommorow to put out a patch without warning which whipes the system of all the software on the console with the exception of personal saved data, we would have no legal recourse because, after all we would still have our 500$ hardware, and sony simply decided to not renew our lease.

Your logic to me sir...is fail in the relm of reality regardless of its foundation in property law.
Edited by Salty6924 - 1/12/11 at 6:50am
post #73 of 169
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Originally Posted by SpeedNuggeT View Post
Sony have lost the plot. It was a matter of time before the hacks came out, and they can just instant ban anyone trying to play online with cracked games. it's not hard. it's near on impossible to control a console that isnt connected to the internet and running cracked firmware, but that was always going to happen, and playing singleplayer cracked games isn't going to affect anyone online..

Sony, stop sueing people, and put some decent DRM on your PS3, steam style
How can Sony tell what is a cracked game if those games are supplying the correct encryption keys? Same with the console. The major problem for Sony with their encryption failure is that the hackers can now generate legitimate keys to sign their apps, just like the actual signed apps. How will Sony be able to tell the difference?
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The people that published Sony's copyrighted work should be punished. The offical SDK has been floating around for a while now and I hope Sony gets them. I can't figure out why fail0verflow was included. I think Sony needs to sue itself for putting in a security system that "facilitate the counterfeiting of video games".
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It was my understanding that once the product was yours you could do anything with it? The License Agreement is not a legal document? So they broke no laws.

I'm probably wrong though
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It was my understanding that once the product was yours you could do anything with it? The License Agreement is not a legal document? So they broke no laws.

I'm probably wrong though
A license is legally binding

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A license permits you to use software, content and services in accordance with certain terms and conditions set out in an End User License Agreement (EULA). A EULA is a legally binding document. Without entering into a EULA, you would not be able to legally use the software, content, or service.

When you purchase software you are buying the right, or getting a license, to use the software in accordance with the EULA.

The EULA explains exactly how you can use the software you purchase and identifies specific restrictions on your use of the software. If you break the terms of the EULA, you are subject to enforcement action and penalties.
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A license is legally binding
However, the law can still override a legal contact.
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However, the law can still override a legal contact.
Only if you challenge it... which no one is doing in this instance.
post #79 of 169
The damage has already been done. Even if Sony sues them, they will not see any money. Sony is just trying to intimidate anyone else who uses the code.
Edited by Riou - 1/12/11 at 7:30am
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The damage is already done. Even if Sony sues them, they will not see any money. Sony is just trying to intimidate anyone else who uses the code.
That's the point, it's a warning shot. They are saying "mess with our code, deal with an expensive lawsuit".
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