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Lol @ bottleneck, this is my backup rig. I do have a i7 980x but sadly it is collecting dust due to my own water cooling snafu that I have been too lazy to fix/clean up.

At ~4.1 GHz, there is no visible bottleneck from either processor in video games, they perform identically.
Really? That's interesting. I saw a huge difference in Crysis, Mafia II, and Just Cause 2, when going from a x4 955 to an i7 920.
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Really? That's interesting. I saw a huge difference in Crysis, Mafia II, and Just Cause 2, when going from a x4 955 to an i7 920.
HE is getting bottlenecked for sure. Instead of getting 100fps with Core i7 he goes 70fps or lower which is till fine and cant tell the difference unless you check the fps for each game but the bottleneck is there.

@ RagingCain Also GTX580 should get 100fps in almost every game @ 1920x1200. The only game i could not played maxed out with My GTX580 is Metro 2033. So taking Crysis and Metro out of the list all other games are a piece of cake GTX580 SLI. Also Ati setup does not cost 1000$. 2 x HD 6970 cost 370x2 = 740 or get HD 6950 Unlocked them and thats 600$ and you can get 2 monitors for 400$.
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HAHA!
every1 kept saying 'lol ATi bad drivers' and '69xx series is so much fail since they suck at metro and 3d mark'
so much BS! i told them that these cards were worth it!!!
nvidia's overpriced cards are so not worth it compared to AMD's cards (as usual)

hmm. and i thought i was going to buy a GTX570 so i can fold, but that would be a waste! HD6950 UNLOCK'd FTW!!!!

hey how many PPD does a 6950/70 get?
    
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I would've liked if they used unlocked 6950s...could've made it even better. Looking at this review I can say I made a good purchase since I went with an Eyefinity setup and that makes me feel all warm inside.
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Great review. Hummm.

So, after reading this, is see that Nvidia ''high-end'' GPU, for ''high-end'' gaming system, is better for ''medium'' range gaming resolution of 1080p (since it's the most used resolution here). But AMD mid-range price (compared to the 580 price) GPU, the 6970, is the REAL high-end GPU for high-end gaming system with multiple screens set-ups and high-end resolutions. And Nvidia ''high-end'' 580, have LESS memory then the 6970, but is suppose to be the top of the line Nvidia card for top of the line game machine...

So the big question that comes to my minds is: why does Nvidia still ask that high price premium over the 6970? And for less video memory? And the other question is (and that one surprise me the most), why does people still buying 580 SLI? For (we hope) ''high-end gaming'', with high-end resolutions and multiple screens set-ups? But they get LESS memory, and on-par performance with 6970 Crossfire, but for a HIGHER price? In Canada, we talk about 300-400$ difference in price...

And the 6970 is ''fail''? Hummm.
Edited by Levesque - 1/12/11 at 8:57am
    
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Great review. Hummm.

So, after reading this, is see that Nvidia ''high-end'' GPU, for ''high-end'' gaming system, is better for ''medium'' range gaming resolution of 1080p (since it's the most used resolution here). But AMD mid-range price (compared to the 580 price) GPU, the 6970, is the REAL high-end GPU for high-end gaming system with multiple screens set-ups and high-end resolutions. And Nvidia ''high-end'' 580, have LESS memory then the 6970, but is suppose to be the top of the line Nvidia card for top of the line game machine...

So the big question that comes to my minds is: why does Nvidia still ask that high price premium over the 6970? And for less video memory? And the other question is (and that one surprise me the most), why does people still buying 580 SLI? For (we hope) ''high-end gaming'', with high-end resolutions and multiple screens set-ups? But they get LESS memory, and on-par performance with 6970 Crossfire, but for a HIGHER price? In Canada, we talk about 300-400$ difference in price...

And the 6970 is ''fail''? Hummm.
A single GTX580 is a beast. SLI thats the wrong move to do with GTX580.
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A single GTX580 is a beast. SLI thats the wrong move to do with GTX580.
exactly. especially when you can get 6950s @ $280 mir. i wish i had a good review on what they do in trifire cause even that is cheaper($840) than 580sli($1027) and will be more powerful.

imagine 3 unlocked 6950s to 6970 at $840.
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So basically 6970s and 6950s pwn the 570s and 580s in F1 2010 since it favors AMD cards and the GTX 580 and GTX 570 pwn the 6970 and 6950 in every other game even at 5760x1200? I already thought the ROPs couldn't keep up with the 2GB VRAM buffer.
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570 SLI gets beat by every other card except for Mafia II.
Edited by Riou - 1/12/11 at 10:43am
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You are reading the wrong graph. Look at the Apples to Apples comparison.

6970 CF beats/ties 580 SLI in every game except BC2 and Mafia 2.
No, I read it like this :

F1 2010: AMD wins no competition at all (580/570 are destroyed for less ca$h).
Civ 5: GTX 580s offers similar performance to 6970s while the GTX 580s take 4xAA and 6970s no AA.

Metro 2033: small lead from the GTX 580s
BF BC2: GTX 580s pwn the 6970s hard while taking 16xCSAA + 2x TrSSAA and the 6970s only do 4xAA.

Mafia II: GTX 580s pwn the 6970s hard with PhysX on high and PhysX off on the 6970s.

This indicates a small ROP bottleneck on the 6970s. With 2GB of VRAM it could be much better than this.

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570 SLI gets beat by every other card except for Mafia II.
Not true either.

In F1 2010 the 570s bite the dust. In Civ 5 they beat the 6970s with a small margin while offering inf.% more performance at minimum FPS (Crap, I divided by zero ). In Metro 2033 the 6970s take a small lead, the same goes for BF BC2. in Mafia II there's no competition on AMD's side.

All of this with 768 MB less of VRAM......
Edited by TheBlademaster01 - 1/12/11 at 10:58am
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