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Originally Posted by alwang17;11981242 
Hi all! This isn't my build, it's my friend's and he wants a really awesome rig. However, he doesn't know that much about hardware, all he knows is more expensive is better biggrin.gif, and I'm basically holding his hand through the process. He initially wanted a rig with the i7-980X but then with the release of Sandy Bridge he's going for the i7-2600K and wants to overclock to around 3.8-3.9GHz, 4 if possible. Also, he needs massive amounts of storage (media junkie. Who has 1.7TB of anime???confused.gif). We're talking >8TB.
I personally prefer keeping my storage separate from my everyday PC (got a 12TB unRAID file server and building another as back-up). Go with green drives for storage. It should be more than fast enough for plain media. Even Blu-ray is, what, 50Mbps (6.25MB/s) tops? Otherwise, that looks like a really nice build.

I don't have 1.7TB worth of anime. I think I have 3TB (probably more). tongue.gif
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The difference between Caviar Black and Caviar Green drives aren't that much different if they're just used as slave drives, right? Green drives should save quite a bit of money as well.

Haha, he was moaning how one of his 1TB externals where he keeps part of his collection almost died after he let it fall to the floor for the 9th time. Moral: don't keep 3 external hard drives balanced on top of each other on a laptop. Although kudos to WD for making an external drive that can still work after 9 drops while running.
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Originally Posted by alwang17;11983405 
The difference between Caviar Black and Caviar Green drives aren't that much different if they're just used as slave drives, right? Green drives should save quite a bit of money as well.
Exactly what I was thinking. Black 2TB drives go for what, at least $50 more than green? If you're buying 4 drives, that's already $200 right there. Is your friend planning on doing RAID-5?
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Not sure if anyone mentioned it but... why would you need 2x 256mb SSD in a boot drive? (of course the most used programs in as well but... 512mb really?)

2x 128 or 60 should definitely be enough for the programs he most frequently uses.

About the case I'd say nzxt phantom, god i love that case!

And the memory, corsair vengance with cl8 and clock them (i'm not sure if they're available in lower timings)
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Looks like a killer system in the works.. Sandy bridge, nice touch and I just read that the H70 does support 1155 as it is the same mounting as the 1156..
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This and this are pics of the EFI BIOS, no?
That and that are pics of EZ MODE which is yes feature in the EFI Bios.
It sad for me you swaped the P8P67, ROG Mobos are worthless for me.

Since i have lot of suggestions, i just make organized build according to your friend need:

CPU: Intel i7-2600K
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CPU Cooler: Corsair H70 /w push/pull fans
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GPU: x2 HD6970 in Crossfire
Boot Drive: Crucial RealSDD C300 64GB
Data Drive: x? WD Caviar Black 1TB in RAID 5
CASE: CoolerMaster HAF 932
PSU: Seasonic Gold X-Series 850w
Monitor: Asus seems nice
Optical Drive: no care here, i preffer LG or Optiarc(NEC)
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Not sure if anyone mentioned it but... why would you need 2x 256mb SSD in a boot drive? (of course the most used programs in as well but... 512mb really?)

2x 128 or 60 should definitely be enough for the programs he most frequently uses.
I dunno, I think 512MB is too small even for a Windows only drive. wink.gif

Seriously speaking, I'd go for a 500+GB SSD if it wasn't too expensive for my tastes. One benefit of SSDs for me is reduced loading times in games. With new games clocking in at 10+ GB a piece, it'll be quite easy to fill up the SSD quickly. Although my personal approach would not be RAID-0 of two large SSD's right away. I'd have one 40~60GB SSD for OS and a larger one to hold apps and games. Once I run out of space on the larger SSD, then I'll buy another bigger SSD. By that time, there'd probably be some significant price drops already.

Another thing, you don't want to format the SSD to capacity. Even with newer SSD's, you still want to allow for some overprovisioning (I use 20%). With 2x256GB (RAID-0) = 512GB, usable space would be around 400GB.
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Hm. Well we did decide to scrap one of the SSD's in exchange for one more hard drive. Crucial is the only brand with SATA III right now? By itself, would a single Crucial SSD be able to exceed SATA II speeds?

I don't know if he'd be willing to sacrifice more hard drives. Obviously he could drop maybe 2 hard drives, and swap out two 2TB hard drives for two 3TB hard drives to still have enough storage. Then do what rui-no-onna said, get a small SSD for Windows and a large one for games and programs with an extra SATA port available for future use.

And as for the hard drives themselves, either RAID 0, possibly RAID 5, but not too clear. If he was gonna build a RAID array, he'd either have to go with all 2TB or all 3TB drives to keep performance optimal, but I'm not sure if he's willing to reduce the amount of storage he has or fork over more cash to keep up the amount of storage.

Colt, I don't about the 6970 CrossFire. He's pretty adamant about going with Nvidia. About the RAM, as CH4PZ said in an earlier post, RAM with tighter timing is better. I don't know how much that'll affect overall performance but how will affect the inevitable overclock that comes with buying this CPU?
Edited by alwang17 - 1/12/11 at 9:38am
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Colt, I don't about the 6970 CrossFire. He's pretty adamant about going with Nvidia.
Well, i just put components according to my opinion, i think GTX 580 is pretty overkill for his needs.
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I don't know how much that'll affect overall performance but how will affect the inevitable overclock that comes with buying this CPU?
Let me explain wink.gif
CAS (Column Address Strobe) latency is the amount of delay in clock ticks between the moment that your memory controller is telling a RAM stick to access particular memory column and the moment that the RAM sticks outputs "answer".
In simple words you will not feel any difference between CL9 and CL7 thumb.gif
Btw, CAS is overclockable too thumb.gif

Oh, CAS doesnt affect CPU overclocking, but the DDR speed (1333/1600/2000mhz) does.
Edited by Colt - 1/12/11 at 12:07pm
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I don't know if he'd be willing to sacrifice more hard drives. Obviously he could drop maybe 2 hard drives, and swap out two 2TB hard drives for two 3TB hard drives to still have enough storage. Then do what rui-no-onna said, get a small SSD for Windows and a large one for games and programs with an extra SATA port available for future use.

And as for the hard drives themselves, either RAID 0, possibly RAID 5, but not too clear. If he was gonna build a RAID array, he'd either have to go with all 2TB or all 3TB drives to keep performance optimal, but I'm not sure if he's willing to reduce the amount of storage he has or fork over more cash to keep up the amount of storage.
And this is why I prefer to keep my storage separate from my workstation. Too many design considerations if you try to merge both functions into one machine. If I were your friend, I'd go for two separate builds. A storage server doesn't really need much by way of resources anyway. Even a Celeron or Sempron would be more than good enough.
Edited by rui-no-onna - 1/12/11 at 1:39pm
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