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Originally Posted by Sozin View Post
My issue is we shouldn't need to have to resort to that to run stock.
Dev phones? Droid 1, Nexus One and Nexus S run on stock versions of Android. The upcoming Motorola Xoom will run on vanilla Honeycomb, I believe.
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My iphone is exactly what Steve Jobs wants it to be, nothing more, nothing less, and what Steve Jobs doesn't want is not allowed.

Android's greatest strength and weakness is its variety. Since it is so open you can find large touch screen, slide out keyboards etc.. Unfortunately you can also be hit with Motorola customizations which hurt rather then help their phones.


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I <3 my Android OS. You honestly can't compare the iPhone to "Android" because the iPhone is both hardware and software.

The iPhone may look prettier, however I'm more for customization/functionality and the Android OS excels in those aspects.

Besides, Google > Microsoft > Steve Jobs.
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Android's greatest strength and weakness is its variety. Since it is so open you can find large touch screen, slide out keyboards etc.. Unfortunately you can also be hit with Motorola customizations which hurt rather then help their phones
That's kinda an important point, Android's (referring to phones running Android) greatest weakness is its greatest attraction. The market is so fragmented. Some phones get software updates, others don't, some run Android really well, others don't. Some have horrible modified ROMs some don't.

There is no benchmark that Google employ to say to manufacturers what their phone must be able to do. There is no quality control. This is one of the biggest problem Android handsets face.
post #24 of 54
The main reason why manufacturers put their own skins/UI on their phones is to set themselves apart from the competition. They can't just slap on stock Android on their products - there would be virtually zero difference between a Droid, Galaxy S and Desire save for hardware specs. And people usually go for the phone with the best hardware, which would be unfair in the industry.

So, they decided to put flavors in their Android devices. They could also add or disable some Android functions in order to differentiate from the rest. What's worse though is that these flavors of Android would be manipulated even more by the phone carriers, putting their own (usually useless) apps which in turn causes much... fragmentation.

But being open-source, people can just flash a ROM of their choice and enjoy Android for what it originally is and so much more. The power of freedom.
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But being open-source, people can just flash a ROM of their choice and enjoy Android for what it originally is and so much more. The power of freedom.
Which is only useful for those technically inclined to do so and don't mind breaking the warranty. When you look at the issue in a complete market way, a good 95% of users will be on stock ROMS, some still on Android 2.0 or 2.1.

Google need to have some influence on what phone manufacturers can and can't do.
post #26 of 54
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Which is only useful for those technically inclined to do so and don't mind breaking the warranty. When you look at the issue in a complete market way, a good 95% of users will be on stock ROMS, some still on Android 2.0 or 2.1.

Google need to have some influence on what phone manufacturers can and can't do.
Not really, you can do more / have access to more apps than your iPhone with a stock Android phone.

Reason being Android apps do not have to go through an "approval" board like iPhone apps. Recalling the story that the political map app for iPhone was rejected because it made Nancy Pelosi and some other person look like they had a big nose(or something to that effect). Political agenda of the developer, maybe, political agenda of Apple, definitely.
    
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Just the other day I was over at Best Buy trying out the various phones and I must say I was very impressed by Windows Phone 7. It was interesting because that particular Best Buy had the Nexus S on display right next to the Samsung Focus so I was able to test both and compare them side-by-side.

I love Android but I couldn't help but notice how much smoother WP7 seemed to run, specially with menu transitions, opening apps, and changing from portrait to landscape. After using the Samsung Focus I never realized how jerky the Android OS really was when doing such tasks. I'm not saying WP7 is faster, but it sure seemed smoother and more polished.
post #28 of 54
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Originally Posted by Sozin View Post
Google will never do anything about the UI, so if you are hoping that they will eventually prevent people from skinning Android, that won't ever happen.

Which sucks in my opinion.
Of course not, Android is open-source. That is its whole purpose!
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Oh wait I forgot the most important thing! Android supports.....wait for it....here it comes.....FLASH!

    
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post #30 of 54
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Originally Posted by CarlosSpiceyWeiner View Post
Not really, you can do more / have access to more apps than your iPhone.

Reason being Android apps do not have to go through an "approval" board like iPhone apps. Recalling the story that the political map app for iPhone was rejected because it made Nancy Pelosi and some other person look like they had a big nose(or something to that effect). Political agenda of the developer, maybe, political agenda of Apple, definitely.
Yes, but the vast majority of Android apps are awful. That again leads to the same issue, some apps work amazing on one Android phone... but not on the next. Market fragmentation. There needs to be a benchmark of what will work with all Android phones and what won't. If that cannot be done, then what about a process whereby you can filter the market for apps compatible with your handset? I've installed so many apps that were either complete crap or just didn't run properly.
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