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Admittedly I am a Nokia fan, and have never used any other phone, so cannot speak from experience, but I sometimes wonder what people want and need in a phone. As an N8 user I have access to everything I need in a smartphone and often it is free Nokia apps. that if I was using some other make I would have to pay for. So for instance, I have a free app. supplied by Nokia that is capable of changing my profile if I go to a certain location, or have an entry in my calendar, or by time of day, and will also take other actions such as load an app automatically. Very useful for going to my local concert hall - the phone recognises when I get there and changes automatically to the silent profile - or if I have a work meeting, my phone also sees that in my diary and again, switches to silent. Between 4am and 6am this little app. automatically loads my podcatcher app. and downloads new podcasts while I sleep. Another free app from Nokia is learning - on the go - and populating a widget with contacts - different sets of contacts depending on whether it detects that I am at work or home, which it also works out. So when I am at work it shows one set of contacts, and when I arrive home it displays a different set. I have a free Nokia-supplied panorama app for the 12 megapixel camera that automatically takes multiple shots and stitches them together in camera, adjusting the exposure to give me a panorama shot - again free from Nokia. I find that the phone itself, has inbuilt functionality that is so rich, I don't feel I NEED to download apps and pay for apps - I am missing nothing. Add to that the long battery life because Symbian is running at the level of the chip, and is therefore very efficient, (not running a power-hungry battery-depleting operating system), plus the other hardware features - (like I enjoy listening to music and podcasts wirelessly through my car speakers as the N8 has a built-in FM transmitter), and I often wonder whether reviewers have really USED the phone, or just given it a quick look whilst mainly using another phone. As a long-time Nokia user, I also know that they will be regularly releasing firmware updates (I got one today) which will over time only improve the UI and fix some of the minor annoyances. Overall I think it is a great bit of kit and have seen quite a few people who have said that they prefer it to other seemingly more popular phones, according to reviewers. I WILL admit that Symbian doesn't seem to be quite as flashy in the UI department as some more recent phones, but it definitely allows you to do everything you could want and does it well. On top of that, the hardware is top rate (no dropped calls for instance, oh - and my alarm worked right through the holidays without a hiccup ... )

Oh, and as a matter of statistics, it was recently reported that the Symbian (probably a significant portion the new N8) was outselling the new Windows phone three-to-one. And over four million N8s were reportedly sold since launch.
Edited by mikwag - 1/12/11 at 5:08pm
post #12 of 19
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Admittedly I am a Nokia fan, and have never used any other phone, so cannot speak from experience, but I sometimes wonder what people want and need in a phone. As an N8 user I have access to everything I need in a smartphone and often it is free Nokia apps. that if I was using some other make I would have to pay for. So for instance, I have a free app. supplied by Nokia that is capable of changing my profile if I go to a certain location, or have an entry in my calendar, or by time of day, and will also take other actions such as load an app automatically. Very useful for going to my local concert hall - the phone recognises when I get there and changes automatically to the silent profile - or if I have a work meeting, my phone also sees that in my diary and again, switches to silent. Between 4am and 6am this little app. automatically loads my podcatcher app. and downloads new podcasts while I sleep. Another free app from Nokia is learning - on the go - and populating a widget with contacts - different sets of contacts depending on whether it detects that I am at work or home, which it also works out. So when I am at work it shows one set of contacts, and when I arrive home it displays a different set. I have a free Nokia-supplied panorama app for the 12 megapixel camera that automatically takes multiple shots and stitches them together in camera, adjusting the exposure to give me a panorama shot - again free from Nokia. I find that the phone itself, has inbuilt functionality that is so rich, I don't feel I NEED to download apps and pay for apps - I am missing nothing. Add to that the long battery life because Symbian is running at the level of the chip, and is therefore very efficient, (not running a power-hungry battery-depleting operating system), plus the other hardware features - (like I enjoy listening to music and podcasts wirelessly through my car speakers as the N8 has a built-in FM transmitter), and I often wonder whether reviewers have really USED the phone, or just given it a quick look whilst mainly using another phone. As a long-time Nokia user, I also know that they will be regularly releasing firmware updates (I got one today) which will over time only improve the UI and fix some of the minor annoyances. Overall I think it is a great bit of kit and have seen quite a few people who have said that they prefer it to other seemingly more popular phones, according to reviewers. I WILL admit that Symbian doesn't seem to be quite as flashy in the UI department as some more recent phones, but it definitely allows you to do everything you could want and does it well. On top of that, the hardware is top rate (no dropped calls for instance, oh - and my alarm worked right through the holidays without a hiccup ... )

Oh, and as a matter of statistics, it was recently reported that the Symbian (probably a significant portion the new N8) was outselling the new Windows phone three-to-one. And over four million N8s were reportedly sold since launch.
did you just join this forum to write that all of text? lol


i understand what you mean by looking for specific features, but in this day in age everyone is looking for more in what they can do in a smart phone these days, which gives people an incentive to buy one smart phone over the other. if the app is there then some people arent going to buy it.

good example: "angry birds" app for iphone and android. i have some pretty shallow freinds that will only buy a new smart phone if it has angry birds. and unfortunately i dont think symbian has that game in thier marketplace.

if you feel the n8 satisfies you, then the buck stops with you.

EDIT: looks like they did make an angry birds app for symbian
Edited by subliminally incorrect - 1/12/11 at 5:55pm
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post #13 of 19
The OS looks so clunky compared to iOS, Android and Windows Phone 7. I just don't see where this phone fits in. It seems like it would be a little sluggish too with just 256MB of ram and a 680Mhz processor. It's starting out behind all of the new phones that are coming out. I just don't see the N8 being very successful. There's no reason to get this over a Android device, or WP7 or iPhone, even a Blackberry.
    
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post #14 of 19
symbian looks bad...I have an N96 and symbian is boring

same as W7..just box and color boxes....
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Blackberry's a joke. I have one for work but I keep a Nokia E71 as my personal phone because Blackberry's lack a solid OS. Only now is Blackberry slowly starting to make up ground.

I have friends who have iPhones, Google phones, etc. It comes down to personal opinion. If you want a series business phone get a Nokia, if you want cool apps and games get an Andriod or iPhone.
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Nokia makes good phones but their Symbian OS fails to make the cut IMO
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post #17 of 19
Sloooooooooowwwwwww.


This isn't a smartphone. Its a camera with a phone built in. Not sure how Nokia can get away with calling this a "flagship" model, when its slower than phones released nearly 2 years ago.
    
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post #18 of 19
Slow in what? Overall or some programs?

If you mean the CPU then they probably should have used A8 for PR purposes if not else.
S^3 relies on GPU but a good CPU is allways a plus.
Edited by Ikon - 1/13/11 at 5:55am
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Please read the review before complaining it is slow because of the hardware.

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Nokia’s choice of using an aged ARM 11 implementation, down-clocked to 680 Mhz (instead of the spec’d 772 Mhz) for its CPU may draw criticism in this day and age of gigahertz-capable, multi-core mobile SoC’s. But digging a little deeper seems to show that there may be some method to this madness. You see, pretty much everything in the N8 runs around the BCM2727 media processor. I would hazard a calculated guess that apart from lightweight low-level OS functions and interfacing with the baseband and other radio’s, there isn’t much else for the CPU to do on the N8. Plus, Symbian’s inherently efficient use of available resources helps too...

...The UI is very fluid and responsive with crisp transitions and swift app switching. Furthermore, the N8 posted very competitive battery life numbers to further substantiate Nokia’s decision here.
That is why I posted this review on a several month old phone. Anandtech actually looks at the specs and evaluates the phone, while places like Engadget just slap a "UI feels good but the hardware is low" tag on it without actually seeing that the CPU is not really utilized much (thus it doesn't matteR).
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