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for 1, there is no such thing as a safe voltage on any CPU... One specific voltage can only be a small piece of the picture. silicon degradation is not based upon a single factor..
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I don't know about you, but intel has a lot more knowledge then anyone here on what is the max vcore and what is not. Until they release a update saying "only 1.4 is safe" 1.52 is within specs and is completly safe. They didn't make these chips one day and start selling them the next, they performed months of testing at probobly full load at max temps to see how long they would last and different voltages to determine what is safe and what isn't.
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I don't know about you, but intel has a lot more knowledge then anyone here on what is the max vcore and what is not. Until they release a update saying "only 1.4 is safe" 1.52 is within specs and is completly safe. They didn't make these chips one day and start selling them the next, they performed months of testing at probobly full load at max temps to see how long they would last and different voltages to determine what is safe and what isn't.
exactly

i will buy 15 days later (waiting this month payments)

and use it with 1,45-1,52 just wait
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I don't know about you, but intel has a lot more knowledge then anyone here on what is the max vcore and what is not. Until they release a update saying "only 1.4 is safe" 1.52 is within specs and is completly safe. They didn't make these chips one day and start selling them the next, they performed months of testing at probobly full load at max temps to see how long they would last and different voltages to determine what is safe and what isn't.
And what do you have to say to the fact that they have gone back on their word before and changed to safe voltage for a chip after it's release? It happens, people make mistakes, and lot's of people are trying their absolute best to make sure Intel hasn't made a mistake by asking for details on why a smaller transistor can take more voltage since it doesn't make much sense.

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And what do you have to say to the fact that they have gone back on their word before and changed to safe voltage for a chip after it's release? It happens, people make mistakes, and lot's of people are trying their absolute best to make sure Intel hasn't made a mistake by asking for details on why a smaller transistor can take more voltage since it doesn't make much sense.


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Tons of people have been running 32nm Gulftowns 24/7 at 1.45v even though the intel max vid is 1.37 for that cpu. That is the fact of the matter. SB is newer and hopefully improved technology so I would hope that it could run with older 32nm cpu's. 1.52v is completely believable for a rational thinker. Whether or not it can will be determined but it's far from outrageous. This is on par with the conspiracy theorists that thought fermi was going to burst into flames in households across the country. Heat related failures have been very few and far between.
    
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Tons of people have been running 32nm Gulftowns 24/7 at 1.45v even though the intel max vid is 1.37 for that cpu. That is the fact of the matter. SB is newer and hopefully improved technology so I would hope that it could run with older 32nm cpu's. 1.52v is completely believable for a rational thinker. Whether or not it can will be determined but it's far from outrageous. This is on par with the conspiracy theorists that thought fermi was going to burst into flames in households across the country. Heat related failures have been very few and far between.
As you make transistors smaller, they are not able to handle more voltage. In fact, we are going to be reaching the limitations reasonably soon. It will be to the point where you won't be able to supply little enough voltage to not vaporize the transistor. That's people whole problem. The voltage, as the transistor size decreases, should also decrease. You can observe the trend for yourself. Intel has in fact increased the voltage while at the same time decreasing the size of the transistors on the chip with SB. It doesn't make sense, which is why people are all in a huff about the max safe voltage as specified by Intel.
 
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Tons of people have been running 32nm Gulftowns 24/7 at 1.45v even though the intel max vid is 1.37 for that cpu. That is the fact of the matter. SB is newer and hopefully improved technology so I would hope that it could run with older 32nm cpu's. 1.52v is completely believable for a rational thinker. Whether or not it can will be determined but it's far from outrageous. This is on par with the conspiracy theorists that thought fermi was going to burst into flames in households across the country. Heat related failures have been very few and far between.
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1.52v?
Whaaaat
Im never downgrading from 65nm, ive put 1.75v through this chip.
    
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Originally Posted by blostorm View Post
hey what's the max voltage for overclocking?
1.52v
Alright I'll rma if it dies
(OVERCLOCKING VOIDS THE WARRANTY..DEUHHHH)
Alright, anything else I can do for you?
NOPE THANKS.

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Ontopic: watercoolers should run at 2.2v and 7 GHz 24/7.
Overclocking doesn't void warranties. Retailers sell pre overclocked cpus.

I've known people who put 9v through their cpu just so that they can RMA it.
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Lol, I find this thread funny, some people to safe, some trying to blow up their CPU. I laughed especially hard at the guy who said even running your card at stock volts with a high frequency was going to blow it away.

We should all just underclock our righs 1000Mhz.
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