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Hi,

I am currently living the life as a ski bum, and take a lot of video with my Gopro HD. I want to be able to do some editing to the videos I take, so I used Pinnacle Videospin to chop up my first video. Problem is, when I put the 1st video up on youtube, the maximum youtube would give it is 480p, despite that the video modes used for that video are 960p (960 tall in 4:3 aspect) and 1080p. My 4th video I put up straight as it came off the gopro, without editing of any sort (in 960p mode), and youtube allowed 720p.

Videospin also added some weird noise to the video when it transcoded to make the final clip, you can't see it in the youtube video at 480p, but in my local copy it's pretty obvious:



Apparently the problem has to do with the transcode itself, so I would like to be able to skip the transcoding if at all possible. Vdub is apparently able to do that, but 1. I can't get it to open the gopro's mp4 files no matter how many internet guides I follow and 2. I'm not even sure it has a powerful enough feature set to do the thing I want.

The editing I did on the first video was kind of just to figure out what videospin could do. I have previously done editing on a mac for a school project, which had tonsss of editing and splicing together. I would like to do something similarly edit-happy in the future, as there is a video competition coming up for a newly-opened area of terrain, the Superbowl. I probably won't win with just POV footage, but I would like to give it a good solid attempt. From what I can tell, videospin doesn't have the effects I want (most notably fast-forward).

So, what software should I be using? It needs to be able to transcode in such a way that isn't ultra-lossy or atrifact-inducing, needs to have a decently beefy feature set, and needs to be able to open mp4 files.
    
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To hopefully give you guys more of an idea of what I'm talking about, here's the IQ degradation that happens between each step (in screengrabs):

Source video (MP4):


Video after cutting up and saving as MP4 with Pinnacle Studio 14


Video on youtube, 720p mode



The workflow I'm currently using just slowly takes away the quality of the video, to the point where the snow looks all the same. Since all there is, is snow, it really takes away from the movie.

Any ideas on where to start at least?
    
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If you like adobe I've used affter effects and preimere for video editing. If you have the big bucks and a Mac go final cut pro
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About your last post: the 2nd image has the wrong aspect ratio. Make sure you keep the same aspect ratio (you should even try to avoid resizing at all).

To check what the AR is, just divide the width by the height. 1280/720 = 16/9, 960/720 = 720/540 = 4/3, etc.
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You should use adobe after effects or Cyberlink.
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About your last post: the 2nd image has the wrong aspect ratio. Make sure you keep the same aspect ratio (you should even try to avoid resizing at all).

To check what the AR is, just divide the width by the height. 1280/720 = 16/9, 960/720 = 720/540 = 4/3, etc.
Yeah, I wasn't too concerned about the aspect ratio stuff, I just wanted a bunch of test footage I could compare.

Using Adobe Premiere, it's a bit better after edit, still considerable loss from the edit but nowhere near as much as before. Youtube still looks like crap though.

Adobe premiere, no edit:


Adobe premiere, contrast and brightness tweaks (+30 bright, +50 contrast)


Same video, on youtube:



Just so you guys know what I'm talking about, the issue is that the snow has no depth or detail, the compression attacks it and more or less just shows it as all monotone white. The ski tracks in the image (about 40% in from top, 40% in from left), you can see pretty well in the source footage, but it is almost not even there on Youtube.

So the editing suite issue is solved, but my new question is how do I best modify my videos so that youtube doesn't compress it so much?
    
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Up..

Feel free to critique my Premiere handiwork


Took a lot of extra edit time to add in the slowmo/reverse/repeat sections, but I think it really helps to show the difficulty better than a single pass.
    
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I recommend Sony Vegas Pro 10.
Coming from a fellow video editor, SV is the best software to edit videos. I have both edited preshot videos and created new animations for four years, so you can ask me any questions you may have. To render in HD, please watch

that I made. To fast forward, press shift, and drag the edge of a clip to the desired length. Keep in mind that there is a limit to how much you can fast forward or slow down a clip. If you have reached the limit, you may render the video, and reopen the rendered video in SV and repeat the process. SV gives excellent render quality, and many effects, transitions, and audio features. For additional effects you can use the Newbluefx plugins. The current price for Sony Vegas Pro 10 is $599.95 USD, and the current price for Newblufx creative bundle is $731 USD which includes all the effects and transition packs. There, of course, are ways to obtain SV and Newbluefx for free, but since they are illegal, I will not discuss them on this forum.
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