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Hacking does not imply piracy.

Piracy is using or distributing software in such a way that that those who developed, produced, and published said software do not get reimbursed for their efforts.

Hacking a console is something entirely different. You are modifying your own property. It's no different from flashing your video card, or painting your car.
In my mind this is pretty much the same as what happen with apple and the U.S. courts saying it is legal to jailbreak your phone.

I'm not really a console gamer so would never purchase a ps3.. however if i find some homebrew use that i dig.. i totally would.
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Hacking in this case doesn't necessarily mean piracy. The PS3 is basically a computer, Sony just limits what you can do with it. By unlocking it you can use it like a computer (install Linux and run whatever programs you want on that).
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so what are those tools? All I see where to download them but nothing about what the tools do.
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The angle Sony is playing off is that it's illegal to distribute said software on the console or content that will allow you to modify it. Especially when it uses Sony's own keys. Those keys are "owned" by Sony. This isn't your typical iPhone jailbreak stuff. Sony may have just found a loophole in the jailbreak Supreme Court thing if they succeed.
Spreading the key might be illegal, I'll agree to that, but they should be able to spread the software. I won't get a PS3 now because they axed linux, it was the only reason I wanted one. I liked the ability to play Linux and games in the same box, less trips back to the computer. I know you can FB/Browse an stuff but that isn't the same, not even close!

For the record, it isn't illegal to modify hardware/software that you have purchased so long as you don't re-distribute that modified hardware/software. At least that's what I remember of things, and that's fair too. You own it, you can do whatever you want regardless of the EULA as long as it follows the DCMA/Copyright or whatever.
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Sony Annoucement: Playstation 4 are due to release as early as Q1 2012
Yep, the new system will be put on a fast track now.
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Because all piracy does is damage the market that brings you entertainment. Why bite the hand that feeds you?

Hacking is more a generic term for opening up the system to run customised software that offers greater functionality than stock. See it as running a custom ROM on Android.
Hacking is actually a very largely incorrectly used term.

Cracking is what people know as hacking, though cracking is simply cracking into a "system" and learning what you may, change what you will.

Hacking is the above, except for personal gain
    
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My thread apparently got deleted. Fun
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It was just a report on them getting served documents is all. Can't see how that is a problem.
Yea... that is really annoying when that happens.
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You are free little tools go fly away!!!
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*waits for Sony to change their whole OS code*
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Hacking is actually a very largely incorrectly used term.

Cracking is what people know as hacking, though cracking is simply cracking into a "system" and learning what you may, change what you will.

Hacking is the above, except for personal gain
Hacking is actually modifying anything, it can go for code or mechanics/physical. Go visit Hackaday and tell me what you see, tell me what goes on. Modifying a piece of software or hardware to do something outside of it's original limitations (intentions) would be a more apt way to describe hacking. Hacking is not ment for piracy, it's way too broad.

Also, cracking isn't "cracking into a 'system'", it's more like stripping away security. It's kind of a gray area, because you can crack/hack a security system. Those both imply the same thing because hacking the code removes the security, same as cracking. The thing is, you the people doing this aren't just cracking into the PS3. They are hacking it because they are modifying code, where as cracking would be to simply remove the security all together. Simply removing the code doesn't give you much functionality, so they have to re-write the security, hacking, to give you your functionality back.

As far as systems/servers (PC) go, I would say more people hack them than crack them. They don't really strip the security away, they find a way to modify the security so that they can get in leaving everybody else out. Hacking it, modifying the code and not simply stripping it. This is different because you can crack systems/servers like this and keep functionality. PC security systems aren't as hard coded into the operating system as fluently as the PS3 or Xbox.

IE: System security is a firewall, removal of the firewall still allows net access without destroying functionality.

To counter that would be getting root access, you can't just "remove" these securities. You first have to find an exploit that gives you temp privileges, gaining you root access, so that you can write your own root account (or re-create passwords, ect...). In this case you are hacking the system, as you are modifying things.

OR

Hacking the PS3. lol I just thought of this after so I'm editing it in. Hacking the Xbox/PS3 to modify the security in such a way as to play homebrew games while keeping the functionality of legitimate games is another counter to cracking. You have to do much more than crack/strip the security.

It's kind of a grey area all around really, hackers will get angry because they think they do more than people who get labled as "crackers" and don't want the name given to them. Or they lable crackers as script kiddies, blah blah blah. It's lame name calling in the end. lol

Really, unless you are actively into that type of stuff your just going to call everything hacking. I'm used to people saying everything is hacking, when there is an obvious difference. Whatev though.

[edit2] Though the PS3/Xbox security does get Cracked, but that simply gets you nowhere. I mean, it teaches you how it works and how to remove it but you as the end user gets no benefit. A Cracked system does nothing, the security in those types of devices is so intertwined that you need it for normal function. Think of it as those game cracks that work and for some reason in the middle of the game at the same spot it goes "insert disc". You sit there and think ***!? Get another crack and it works, why? Because they didn't strip all the security, though that would be a hacked executable but anyways... Thing is that the security is so intertwined with the console that if you simply removed it without producing any custom code you would get a useless box. So the security was cracked/hacked, that can be used either way. However, you will not use a cracked PS3 when (if) you choose to apply the modifications that come of this. You will be using a hacked PS3.

GRAMMAR 101!

[edit3] Just for kicks, if you ever modify your PS3 with said modifications that come of this you will be a script kiddy. =P That's just how the hierarchy goes.
Edited by mushroomboy - 1/15/11 at 4:24pm
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