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I hate steam to. I would much rather go home put my disk inside my pc and play.

The times when i rely on ideo games the most is when my internet isnt working. Thanks to steam i cant play when the internet is down..
You can play in offline mode unless it is specifically an online game. I did it just a few months ago. When I moved I did not have my internet connection hooked up to my new place yet. I played all my games (except ones specifically requiring the internet (like Team Fortress 2, Counterstrike etc) in offline mode.
    
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I buy the physical copy when I can and the price between it and Steam versions aren't too far apart...That being said, Steam is great.
This for the most part.

Secondly, I hate having to update games. Even if they have a built-in update manager like WoW or BC2 (retail).

The only time now I feel I need to go out and get a disc version is when it first comes out and prices are evenly matched. But after I buy the disc, I wish it was activated through steam

I am not the biggest fan of adding Non Steam games to my steam list...it just makes it look dirty
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I downloaded steam when I bought metro 2033, since then I have spent maybe $60 on steam but I have like 9 or 10 games and real games not casual games... I really like what steam is doing for games making them accessible to everyone who can wait 4 months after release.
I'm not poor but I'm not rich, I'm a home owner and if you think owning a car or a computer is a money pit you just wait.
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So it's written on the box.
all stores in my area have a no-return policy on PC games. doesnt matter if its still sealed and you have the receipt.
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Nothing you said applies to steam. You don't rent a game from steam, when you buy it it is yours. You also do not need to be online. You can activate the game online but from then on you can play in offline mode (unless the game is specifically an online game, but then what does steam have to do with it?).

There are also ways to activate the game without using the internet. I believe it can be done over the phone.

You, Sir, have no idea what you are talking about...
How about this. Would you buy a house knowing that your key is actually connected to the estate agents server and when they go out of business you can't get into your house?

You might, I won't. I don't care what kind of DRM the game uses, DRM is an invasion of my purchase and I do not accept it. My rant has as much to do with Steam as it does with GFWL and activation limits, I hate all. Now if Steam used a system in which you could download the ISO, and not have anything to do with Steam beyond that, I might be inclined to use it, but until then I'll keep refusing to use Steam.

If having had to use Steam after playing HL2 and CS (I hate CS) means I have no idea what I'm talking about then so be it.
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i don't like steam.
i don't like the idea of having a sub-application within another application that is being controlled by the master application.
if that made sense.
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pretty much what it comes down to, steam is almost necessary for most pc gamers. Its not a big deal really. it doesn't have that many problems. Many people, including myself, have used steam for years with no problems with compatibility issues. Embrace it essentially, it can save you time and money in the long run i think. With no risk of losing your cd keys or discs, and no problem installing stuff on other computers its simply easier.
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pretty much what it comes down to, steam is almost necessary for most pc gamers. Its not a big deal really. it doesn't have that many problems. Many people, including myself, have used steam for years with no problems with compatibility issues. Embrace it essentially, it can save you time and money in the long run i think. With no risk of losing your cd keys or discs, and no problem installing stuff on other computers its simply easier.
thats all fine and well, but not what the thread is about. why do RETAIL games have steam. if you purchase a game off steam then thats your deal but if i go to the store and purchase a disc i would rather not deal with steam. if the game is steamworks only then why in the hell do they even release a retail version anyways????
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thats all fine and well, but not what the thread is about. why do RETAIL games have steam. if you purchase a game off steam then thats your deal but if i go to the store and purchase a disc i would rather not deal with steam. if the game is steamworks only then why in the hell do they even release a retail version anyways????
if you were selling a game would you only sell it in one state. or in one store. Common sense says no you would not. One of the main points of marketing is to get your product available to as large a market as possible.
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thats all fine and well, but not what the thread is about. why do RETAIL games have steam. if you purchase a game off steam then thats your deal but if i go to the store and purchase a disc i would rather not deal with steam. if the game is steamworks only then why in the hell do they even release a retail version anyways????
To save the developers money on creating a DRM and/or setting up servers. They can just pay Valve that has everything the developers feels they need. The disc is for people who want a physical copy and/or do not have the resources to download larger games.

I can imagine since the majority of PC Gamers dislike intrusive DRM's, they look at Steam's business model and see that gamers are "alright" (this being in terms of game sales) with that form of DRM.
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