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get a hd 5770 - those things are mad for their price
    
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I may have missed it, but it would help if the OP could list the entire system specs. I didn't see anything about his PSU in there. I'm not saying it's the culprit, but it never hurts to know if he's got a weaker unit that may be having excessive ripple, etc.
edit...I'm starting to think you might just want to do a bios update and then reinstall W7. It's starting to sound like you are maybe having some sort of I/O problem if your input devices are sluggish, yet you maintain high framerates. Either that, or as said before, your net provider is screwing things up. If that is the case, unless you can switch providers you are sol.
Edited by Nixuz - 1/13/11 at 10:41am
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I may have missed it, but it would help if the OP could list the entire system specs. I didn't see anything about his PSU in there. I'm not saying it's the culprit, but it never hurts to know if he's got a weaker unit that may be having excessive ripple, etc.
edit...I'm starting to think you might just want to do a bios update and then reinstall W7. It's starting to sound like you are maybe having some sort of I/O problem if your input devices are sluggish, yet you maintain high framerates. Either that, or as said before, your net provider is screwing things up. If that is the case, unless you can switch providers you are sol.
Was thinking of adding the PSU last night but ended up going to bed before then. I'll add it now. As for entire system specs, I wouldn't know what else to add that I have not already added. If there are more to add, let me know.

PSU is 485W.

I've just installed a clean Windows 7 x64 bit Ultimate edition on my 640 GB HDD in a 150 GB partition a couple weeks ago.
Also, I had Windows 7 Manager doing clean up on my PC for awhile. And I came to notice under the system Optimization > System Speed > RAM and Disk Cache, the File System Caching Memory was set to More than 1 GB and Level 2 Cache memory was set to 2 GB.
When I lowered File System Caching Memory to 256 MB and Lv 2 cache to 256 KB my pc performance increased a lot. I don't think it was lowering the Lv 2 cache that did it though. I think my memory was being hogged by that File System Caching Memory option.

I've been thinking about installing a Windows XP OS onto a partition for the added performance boost in games with recording. While still keeping Windows 7 OS as my main. However, if I remember correctly, trying to install Windows XP on a system with Vista/Win7 already installed can be a real pain to accomplish correctly.

At worst, I can reinstall a clean OS again. Been trying to see if Windows 7 Fire Edition is better than the default Windows 7 Ultimate. And so far I do see a slightly better performance in the Fire edition. But the UI is gross and unfriendly. Which is why I put it to the default look.

As for my internet. Can it really be a cause of my issues? I understand internet can cause lag, and I have also experienced running back in place before in certain FPS games when lag is unbarably high. However I've never noticed an actual pc performance hit off of internet.
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I just mentioned the net performance because you said you liked F2P games.
Try running some benches with games that don't rely on net connection.
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Your system specs look ok to me for just playing online games and such.

If you're experiencing keyboard and mouse lag, then it's probably your kb/mouse. Are you using a wireless kb/mouse set? I know that I personally had the same problem when using a Bluetooth mouse in several games. Try using a USB connected mouse.
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just pick up an 880G Biostar board for $60 bucks with a cheap set of 4gb ram for $40. $100 bucks and your system will be straightened out. seems like you got a ton of issues. i don't think it's your gpu... i have a GT240 which i have used... it didn't give me problems. i then moved up to a 9800 GTX+ and now a 4850.. but again, even though i'm not using it at the moment, it gave me no probs when i used it.
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Hey - I didn't read all the responses - But you said fps is good - smooth - But your

KEYBOARD AND MOUSE LAG.

Do you have a wireless Keyboard and mouse by chance?
There's no reason your hardware shouldn't be able to play your free for play games with options turned down. You'll find the general idea around here is overkill.

SO - is your keyboard / mouse wireless?
What brand?
Any other computers around with wired KB/ Mouse to borrow for a quick test?
    
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post #48 of 59
gt 240's arent that slow? If ur getting slow response times then its something to do with ur display. Try playing at a lower res to see if it responds faster, those free games are not intensive at all and even a gt 220 could max them out. Also try a differnt monitor. Cheers
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I've got 4 monitors. This current one being the biggest(1920x1080). And I get absolutely 0 performance change with any of the smaller monitors and their resolutions. And 0 performance change with the lowest resolutions.

I get slightly more responsive gameplay with graphics lowered, but it's actually hardly much different.

On my other PC, if I lower resolution then game speeds up a lot. If I change graphic quality the game speeds up. But not with this PC. Which tells me(correct me if I'm wrong) that the PC is capable of running these games. But something is gimping it. Which could be the motherboard and such.


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I have a USB mouse and USB keyboard. The keyboard is a default standard Acer keyboard that came with my Acer Aspire X1700 mini-desktop that I can no longer use because I accidentally fried the motherboard.
The mouse is a G5 Logitech. It's been dead weight since mid-2009. But no money to replace it. I want the newer G500 Logitech mouse. I have a claw-grip handling and razer mice, fat mice, cordless mice and so on are bad for me. The g5 is great for me. But the laser has been defective for a long time.

But the mouse itself is not the concern. I can feel the performance pull with the mouse. Same as with the keyboard. I've used different mice and keyboards to test differences, including with a razer death adder, microsoft intelli mouse, microsoft sidewinder, $20 logitech mouse and more. All have the same latency feel with my games running. Same said with the keyboards. However, I have never had a gaming keyboard with anti-ghosting and what not. I want the G15 Logitech keyboard but that's $100 and I can't even afford the $60 G500 Logitech mouse lol.

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At the moment, after the changes I've done since the creation of this topic, I can no longer hit top frame rates in games. I get close, but not there. And now I get jagged gameplay as well. Screen freezing and so on. I've tried defaulting and such but no change.

One question I do want to ask though. Could the liquid cooling need replacing? Or 'refills? Or be a problem?
My brother installed a liquid cooling system to the CPU. I remember him saying something about how the PC performance increased with liquid cooling installed, but he may of incorrectly installed it to a point where it gives him performance stalls here or there that should not be there.
post #50 of 59
Wait, so your mouse has a bad sensor?

And what kind of lag are you getting? Is the mouse not tracking and jumping around everywhere? Is it just unresponsive?

I really don't think anything is wrong with your system: just your kb/mouse.
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