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Whilst thats true now, this thread is about the speculated performance of Bulldozer, so as yet we have no idea whether a 2500k will still be the best value gaming chip in ~3 months time.

Once Bulldozer is released yeah sure, make your purchases with confidence, if Bulldozer can't beat Sandy Bridge comfortably, it won't stand a chance againgst Ivy Bridge.
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Whilst thats true now, this thread is about the speculated performance of Bulldozer, so as yet we have no idea whether a 2500k will still be the best value gaming chip in ~3 months time.

Once Bulldozer is released yeah sure, make your purchases with confidence, if Bulldozer can't beat Sandy Bridge comfortably, it won't stand a chance againgst Ivy Bridge.
Bulldozer = 32nm Ivy Bridge =22nm

So no it's not going to beat Ivy bridge but it's not expected to by anyone who knows much about CPU's, Ivy bridge will launch next year and Komodo will have to try it's best to compete with it.
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Bulldozer = 32nm Ivy Bridge =22nm

So no it's not going to beat Ivy bridge
but it's not expected to by anyone who knows much about CPU's, Ivy bridge will launch next year and Komodo will have to try it's best to compete with it.
While it's likely BD won't be better than Ivybridge.... process size is certainly not an indication to that.
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While it's likely BD won't be better than Ivybridge
Because the market it'll be targeted at it's not the same.

Ivy will cover the +500$ range, while BD will compete against the <$500 one.


That is, unless AMD resurrects the FX series chips and blow the hell out of Intel.


I'd love to see that day... again
   
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Bulldozer = 32nm Ivy Bridge =22nm

So no it's not going to beat Ivy bridge but it's not expected to by anyone who knows much about CPU's, Ivy bridge will launch next year and Komodo will have to try it's best to compete with it.
You could make a fortune with your time machine, whilst you were looking at benchmarks in the future that haven't happened yet, did you by any chance bring some back in time for us to see? We're all dieing to know what the performance of these chips will be.

We don't all know as much about cpu's as you, you know, or time travel...

Whether Bulldozer beats Ivy Bridge or not isn't the point i was making. If it doesn't beat Sandy Bridge, then AMD's top line will be left high and dry by Ivy Bridge, leaving AMD in the wilderness. Bulldozer doesn't have to beat Ivy Bridge to stay price competitive, but it's needs to compete with and hopefully beat Sandy Bridge, otherwise at that price point, since you need a new board and cpu with both, why would anyone bother with Bulldozer?
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While it's likely BD won't be better than Ivybridge.... process size is certainly not an indication to that.
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You could make a fortune with your time machine, whilst you were looking at benchmarks in the future that haven't happened yet, did you by any chance bring some back in time for us to see? We're all dieing to know what the performance of these chips will be.

We don't all know as much about cpu's as you, you know, or time travel...

Whether Bulldozer beats Ivy Bridge or not isn't the point i was making. If it doesn't beat Sandy Bridge, then AMD's top line will be left high and dry by Ivy Bridge, leaving AMD in the wilderness. Bulldozer doesn't have to beat Ivy Bridge to stay price competitive, but it's needs to compete with and hopefully beat Sandy Bridge, otherwise at that price point, since you need a new board and cpu with both, why would anyone bother with Bulldozer?

Ok so while a smaller lithography doesn't 100% definitely mean that a CPU will perform faster from what we've seen over the years it's a pretty safe assumption. And no, sorry purple but I forgot to take some of the benchmarks back with me

Some people would buy Bulldozer because Intel is an evil company but since most people don't really care about a company's morals then AMD do really need to bring out some really high performing CPU's.
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Bulldozer = 32nm Ivy Bridge =22nm

So no it's not going to beat Ivy bridge but it's not expected to by anyone who knows much about CPU's, Ivy bridge will launch next year and Komodo will have to try it's best to compete with it.
Ivy Bridge is the tock, meaning its a shrink with minimal performance increases, Sandy Bridge was the tick which is where the performance increases are.

Any performance increases from Ivy Bridge are purely from fitting more cores on the die, which considering AMD fit a Hexacore on 45nm and Intel went to 32nm to do the same thing...AMD should be fine, it's only OCing that Intel will have the advantage in.
    
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i come here and all i see is people with amd cpu's cheering for bulldozer and intel users speculating if its gonna be good or not...and i really dont care about this whole situationif amd makes a better cpu then good for them,i just want these stupid fanboys to be quiet
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Some people would buy Bulldozer because Intel is an evil company but since most people don't really care about a company's morals then AMD do really need to bring out some really high performing CPU's.
Intel is evil?

Elaborate.
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@ tehstranger

Well, that was a helpful post.
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