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Originally Posted by Phoenixlight View Post
The i7-9XX series and the i7-2600(+K) aren't just quad core CPU's though they have 4 logical cores as well. And since there aren't any applications able to use 8 cores then it can't really be 100% faster because the software won't utilize the hardware.
I'd go with this.


He makes a good point.

i7's and i5's are plenty fast as Quad CPU's today. And still have plenty of room to be fully utilize.

Note, these are quads + HT for i7s.

And Bulldozer has 8 cores, and yet it is "50% faster?"

And that's IF games/apps even utilize 8 cores...

Still...these are still rumors, when benchmarks are out and prove it is faster than i5s and i7s, then I'll eat my words.
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Originally Posted by BakingSoda View Post
If BD doesn't beat SB then AMD might as well quit....
Yes, because there wouldn't be a market for it even if it was super cheap, right? I bet you're amazed that there is another car manufacturer other than Ferrari in existence(Toyota, Nissan,etc should just quit?). I bet you're also shocked that Timex hasn't folded up shop yet since Rolex sells a better watch. How about every champagne maker other than Dom Perignon close up shop? Quick question though, are the only pens in your house Mont Blanc? If you find any Bic or equivalent pens, you should toss them out and replace them with Mont Blanc since value has no weight.
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post #153 of 181
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All this talk about BullDozer being 50% faster than a quad core doesn't impress me.

No crap an 8 core will be at least 50% faster. Hell it should be ONE HUNDRED PERCENT faster. But it's not.

Go figure AMD. Try to fool the unsuspecting into thinking your 8 core is God's gift to the world. Funny how they didn't compare the speeds to Sandy Bridge isn't it.

I'd like to see BD octocore vs i7-2600k. If it can show a 50% increase then I'd shat brix.
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Sigh..

You've all got it wrong anyway, AMD hasn't said Bulldozer will be 50% faster, they said 50% more performance.

Think about it.
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I think that I'll quote myself for this one in order to save some typing. The short version is that the second integer core is a more consistent answer to SMT while consuming a similar amount of die space (the an "8-core" unit is only 4 compete cores with some additional integer cores which make it similar to 4-cores with SMT). It is only a part of the total core and cannot therefore double performance.
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Your argument loses its validity as soon as you remember its an Octocore because of AMDs version of HT, its still 4 modules.
No. The 8 core BD is 8 FULL cores. Each module has two cores, and two threads, not one core and two threads.
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Who ever has the top cpu will grab the fan boys and the "serious user's who have serious needs" (smirk) for the best with more money than sense. Just look at this forum, people swear undying allegience to one manufacturer one day, then the next they buy a cpu from the opposition. Thats fine, it's stupid to only consider on manufacturer, and thats why the best costs the most.

EDIT: 1000 posts. hurrah. what a wise way to spend my time.
this will happen undoubtedly, wont be to me though, bet AMD puts the same grain of salt into thier CPUs as intel did with sandy, hardware stuff to limit our 3rd party download fun.

that said, until my i5 750 kicks the bucket, im not replacing it, ever
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No. The 8 core BD is 8 FULL cores. Each module has two cores, and two threads, not one core and two threads.
No it is not. Look at the pictures immediately above this post. Some things are shared, some things are not.
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This article fails because a Phenom 2 quad isn't equal to an i7 950... i7s are ~25-30% faster than Phenom X4s so simply saying that BD will be "50% faster than i7 and P2" is too general.

If I were to guess, I would say that BD is 50% faster than Phenom 2 and 20% faster than the i7-950 which puts it on par with the 2600K like I've said all along.
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This article fails because a Phenom 2 quad isn't equal to an i7 950... i7s are ~25-30% faster than Phenom X4s so simply saying that BD will be "50% faster than i7 and P2" is too general.

If I were to guess, I would say that BD is 50% faster than Phenom 2 and 20% faster than the i7-950 which puts it on par with the 2600K like I've said all along.
Well it also depends on in what regards they are talking about. I agree that with a lot of multithreaded apps like rendering software, intel wins. But in games, not too much of a difference.
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No it is not. Look at the pictures immediately above this post. Some things are shared, some things are not.
It's two cores in each module. Complete cores or not it's still two cores.
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