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LOL, I'll believe it when I see it. AMD isn't known for quantum leaps. If it's that great when it's released I'll be the first one on the bandwagon but given AMD's lackluster history as of late I'll bet that it won't be.
    
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AMD and Intel signed a contract which limits Intel's business practices and punishes them severely if they behave in a manner other than specified.

Even if Intel did lower prices though, I (as a consumer) would still win.
I didn't realize the anti-competitive tactics included lowering of prices, I thought it was more about the AMD crippling compilers and bribing OEMs?

Just look at Bloomfield. It was pretty damn expensive when first released, but we saw a good discount when PhenomII got released. Even though Deneb was slower, Intel realized they won't stay competitive with their origional pricing.

Then we saw a second decrease in price when Thuban got released, just compare an i7 950 to a 940 when first released!

I don't think Intel is breaking any laws by doing this, but they sure put tremendous pressure on AMD, than if they kept the 920/940/960x at their origional prices.
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TPU = fail source.
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LOL, I'll believe it when I see it. AMD isn't known for quantum leaps. If it's that great when it's released I'll be the first one on the bandwagon but given AMD's lackluster history as of late I'll bet that it won't be.
Yeah, because K6, Athlon and Athlon64 definitely weren't quantum leaps, I mean, K6 put the company from a late, lackluster CPU (K5) that barely worked in the budget area into competing with the best chips from both Intel and Cyrix/IBM, Athlon buried the Pentium 3 in the end (And even the Pentium 4 until Intel really ramped up clock speeds with Northwood) and Athlon64? Well, Intel had to admit they screwed up to beat that, AMDs just had a tough time since then and all of a sudden that becomes what is known as the norm?
    
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post #95 of 181
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1) 8 core as in 4 module, this is no different from HT except its a hell of a lot more efficient.
2) Keep in mind Intels new architecture isn't much faster than their 2 year old one...
Not even close.

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Since when it came out.
You're gonna have to show me where a i7 2600k is better than a 980x assuming all cores are used. Everybody already knows SB has better single threaded performance.... that doesn't equate to better CPU though.
Edited by GameBoy - 1/18/11 at 1:02pm
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You're gonna have to show me where a i7 2600k is better than a 980x assuming all cores are used. Everybody already knows SB has better single threaded performance.... that doesn't equate to better CPU though.
Remember this when Bulldozer is released, because this is the Intel Ace card. Thuban with 6 threads beats 8 thread i7's in heavily multi threaded apps, yet ask any i7 user and they will say i7's better, because hey, it's faster in single threaded performamce.

Bulldozers strength will be in multi threading too, so i hope you still think that counts as making it superior if it beats Intels offerings in multi threaded performance.
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post #97 of 181
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Remember this when Bulldozer is released, because this is the Intel Ace card. Thuban with 6 threads beats 8 thread i7's in heavily multi threaded apps, yet ask any i7 user and they will say i7's better, because hey, it's faster in single threaded performamce.
Actually they're about equal (when all 6 cores are used). For everything else that isn't heavily multi-threaded the i7 roflstomps any Phenom clock for clock.

In the 980x's case it's much better than a 2600K when all 6 cores are used, and only falls slighty short (clock for clock) of a 2600K when 4 or less cores are used.
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amd can come up with any numbers they want , 50% more performance ? we will see about that .. looking foward to this , might be my first amd chip yet .
    
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Not even close.
I know when you look at it technically, it is completely and utterly different from HT (Which is where it gets all the efficiency from) but in laymans terms, its AMDs form of HT.
    
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post #100 of 181
I would laugh if BD was the best chip and AMD priced it about as low as the Phenom II's
It would hurt Intels rep for expensive chips
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