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I find it kind of stupid though that most Android phones record in H.264.
I can see that changing in future versions of Android if they really go for 100% open source.
    
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post #12 of 34
Repost.. I already posted this a day or so ago.
http://www.overclock.net/software-ne...-remove-h.html
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post #13 of 34
Microsoft's COMEBACK:
http://blogs.msdn.com/b/tims/archive...of-google.aspx
Also, WebM is far inferior to h.264, I mean it doest even have hardware acceleration.
    
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Um what websites use H.264 because I'm on the 10s+ in chromium builds and I don't notice a problem. Is this supposed to happen in the 11 builds or something? LOL at the opera and FF fanboys though for showing up early. The only thing I'm curious about is what happen to the whole HTML5 thing? I don't see it anywhere anymore. Did they just bury it from view so you don't realize it's working or what? I really want flash to die in a fire because of how horrible it is.
     
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If I'm correct, the HTML5 version of YouTube uses H.264 to deliver the videos?
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post #16 of 34
It can do both h.264 & webm (or it did).
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post #17 of 34
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Originally Posted by Stealth Pyros View Post
I find it kind of stupid though that most Android phones record in H.264.

Umm, my Desire HD records in 3GP..

Wish it recordered in H.264 though
    
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Umm, my Desire HD records in 3GP..

Wish it recordered in H.264 though
It records in something, but it's not 3GP.
3GP is nothing more than a storage container (like .mp4, .mkv, etc), not a codec.

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The 3GP file format stores video streams as MPEG-4 Part 2 or H.263 or MPEG-4 Part 10 (AVC/H.264), and audio streams as AMR-NB, AMR-WB, AMR-WB+, AAC-LC, HE-AAC v1 or Enhanced aacPlus (HE-AAC v2).

Edited by Trigunflame - 1/13/11 at 9:10am
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post #19 of 34
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Originally Posted by VulcanDragon View Post
Google has no market position in the browser space. Chroms is a rounding error. As long as IE, Firefox, Safari, and mobile browsers continue to support H.264, this move will have no impact on H.264's use.
Rounding error? Chrome could very well surpass Firefox by the end of the year. Its the only browser thats gaining marketshare.




You'll find a similar story on most stats sites.


Oh and Mozilla and Opera both back Ogg Theora. Along with Chrome thats nearly 50% of the browser market, more if you consider IE's dwindling marketshare.


And you're forgetting the massive influence that Google has on the matter. Not only do they operate the largest video site on the planet, they also have control over the largest mobile OS (or will shortly).

If Google wants Ogg Theora or WebM to be the standard, then it will be the standard.


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Most codes are proprietary. The free/OSS ones are rarely supported unless the user installs the codec themselves, at least until it is to prevalent that it makes no sense to not support it by default I suppose.
And most codecs don't require licensing fees either. JPEG and PNG don't cost money to use, MP3 doesn't cost money to use, Javascript doesn't cost money to use. You cannot base an open standard on something that costs money. MPEG-LA has only made H.264 license free for 5 years, and even then its only for "internet video".

5 years from now if I wanted to develop a new web browser based on the open HTML5 standard, I would be unable to unless I payed patent licensing fees to MPEG-LA. That is fundamentally wrong.
    
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post #20 of 34
I thought Firefox does not want to support h.264 either because they want to support open source standards, not proprietary ones.

h.264 is currently used by a lot because of its smaller file size and good IQ. h.264 may have royalty complications in the future. Currently it is "free" but that may change in the future if it becomes more dominant.
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