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SaltwaterCooled,

I am just about ready to make the big purchase. I will post what I am going to get on here before I do.

Before I finalize what I am going to get, I have a few more questions:

Question 1
What is the correct order to place my components?

ex: pump>rad>cpu block

in the future, when I add gpu block,

ex: pump>rad>cpu block>gpu block

I ask because I want to make sure I purchase the right barbs (regular, 90 degree, 45 degree) to best suit my case.

Question 2
If I have 1 rad, 1 block, and 1 pump, will I need a total of 6 barbs? Two for each component?

Question 3
If I get this for my T-line, can I use the same barbs that I am using for the rest of my system? These barbs would be the ones I need to use with the clampless 7/16" ID tubing correct?

Is this what I need for the top of my T-line? Is there another part that I need as well?

I did have a few more questions, but they are not coming to mind right now. I will post as I remember.

1) loop ordering doesn't have a huge impact on performance, from what i understand. no more than a few degrees either way.

2) barbs are integrated into the mcp-655, so you wouldn't need to buy any for it. i can't tell if the barbs you linked are metal or plastic; i'd make sure to get metal ones, if they aren't. had a bad experience with some plastic swiftech barbs a few years back that soured me on plastic stuff.
    
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Question 1
What is the correct order to place my components?

ex: pump>rad>cpu block

in the future, when I add gpu block,

ex: pump>rad>cpu block>gpu block

Most will say pump.rad.cpu.gpu, but personally I feel it's more important to get short, clean runs to tubing. Temps won't vary across your loop more than a degree or so max. As long as there is a T or res right before the pump to prevent it from running dry all the other order is subjective and largely irrelevant.I ask because I want to make sure I purchase the right barbs (regular, 90 degree, 45 degree) to best suit my case.
If you can avoid 90s you should, I have several in my rig, but that was to cut down on the length of tubing. They're tough on flow and should be used sparingly.

Question 2
If I have 1 rad, 1 block, and 1 pump, will I need a total of 6 barbs? Two for each component?

2 for each component, though you should look carefully, most products will come with barbs, EK for example provides barbs with blocks and other hardware. I'd say unless you're really strapped for cash just order a set of barbs that are all the same, that you like and think will work well. Then the other ones will be spares which is never a bad thing.

Also note that most places sell barbs individually, so be careful to check that you're buying either a pair or individuals.


Question 3
If I get this for my T-line, can I use the same barbs that I am using for the rest of my system? These barbs would be the ones I need to use with the clampless 7/16" ID tubing correct?

The barbs you linked were an excellent choice, the T fitting that you linked to was misleading though, the 'rotary T' from BP looks like this. What you want instead is this. You can see the difference in the addition of the rotary on one side. If you want to order only from Frozen I would suggest the acrylic T or simply a plastic T as it will save you a few bucks in barbs.

Is this No, see below. what I need for the top of my T-line? Is there another part that I need as well?

This is what I have. The part that you linked needs a threaded barb to screw into.
I did have a few more questions, but they are not coming to mind right now. I will post as I remember.
Post back as you remember, I'll be around

Edit: Do you have a parts list, when you do, post it and I'll look it over in detail for you to make sure everything is compatible.
Edited by SaltwaterCooled - 1/19/11 at 4:59pm
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post #23 of 32
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Awesome! Thanks for the info. I have been taking more serious measurements of my case before ordering. I want to avoid modding my case of possible, or at least limit to only slight modding. If I have decide to go with two or even three rads as opposed to one large one, will this cut down on my flow? Will the 655 be enough to push two or three rads?

With multiple rads, should I put them in my loop sequentially, or spaced out throughout the loop?
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Awesome! Thanks for the info. I have been taking more serious measurements of my case before ordering. I want to avoid modding my case of possible, or at least limit to only slight modding. If I have decide to go with two or even three rads as opposed to one large one, will this cut down on my flow? Will the 655 be enough to push two or three rads?

With multiple rads, should I put them in my loop sequentially, or spaced out throughout the loop?
Rads are among the least resistive parts you can have in a loop, and yes, a 655 will handle several without issue. What size rads did you have in mind? I would arrange them in whatever means/order makes for the shortest runs of tubing. Also keep airflow in mind, ideally all the rads would be set as intakes, to allow each to draw cool air, but make sure you leave at least one fan to exhaust otherwise case temps will soar. Also try to avoid stacking rads or having heated air pass through them, as this will reduce the effectiveness alot.
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Here is a photo w/ my old h70. I have already sold it.

I put in the h70 when i built the rig just over a month ago. I sold the h70 a week ago because I want to hit >4ghz.

I have added a RAM cooler and redone the wiring (even though I will have to redo it again for my loop)

I think I may be able to fit the BI GTX 240 up top, but I would have to remove the ram cooler. Do I even need this ram cooler? I want to OC the ram after I am done with my loop. But I would rather fit the large rad I think.

*My bad on misspelling rad in the photo*

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I would recommend this rad and Gary at Sidewinder, he's great with customer service and prices are great. I personally have 4 Swiftech rads and love them, I have a 120 that's been around the block, but is currently sitting on my shelf (if you want it, PM me, it's not new, but it doesn't leak and is in good shape internally, it just has some scratches-we could work something out), and then the 3 others that you can see in my sig rig. They're great price/performance-wise which is my main criteria and they have much lower FPI (fins per inch) compared to the BI GTX, so they perform better with lower airflow (generally, quieter) and they're thinner, 34mm vs the BI @ 54mm. You could also look into some 20mm fans instead of the standard 25mm if need be. I believe they also make 12mm fans, but I would either go push/pull 12mm or single 20-25mm.

Remember that the BI GTX series isn't going to really shine until you start really moving the air through them, so I would recommend against them if you're looking for quiet cooling.

Re the ram cooler: I would ditch it, the 240 rad will provide some airflow over the ram and strong ram will be able to handle the OC. If you have the space you can certainly keep it though!
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What fans do you recommend for use on rads?
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Kirb,

Are you still planning on going to a kit? If so which one have you decided based on all the feed back or you just going to build your own?
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What fans do you recommend for use on rads?
Yate Loons, whichever speed you feel comfortable with.
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Kirb,

Are you still planning on going to a kit? If so which one have you decided based on all the feed back or you just going to build your own?
I am looking into building my own cooling loop. Looking at EK-Supreme HF. A slim 240 rad, possibly rs240, and quite possible a second rad, which would be a Black Ice GTX 120. Swiftech MCP-655 pump.

This setup should allow me to expand my loop in the future. My only concern is that I have seen many on the forum opting to mod their CM Sniper when cooling cpu+2gpu. I do not want to heavily mod my case. I like it very much how it is. Slight mods, I can do. My question is: Will the two rads I listed above be sufficient to cool cpu + single gpu, or even cpu + 2 gpu? I am not needing to hit 40 C temps or anything. Anything in the 60s up to 75 under prime 95 load will suffice for me.



I have seen a lot of people on the forum using Scythe Gentle Typhoon fans. I have also read a lot of good things about these fans. Would anyone recommend them over Yate Loons?
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