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duh, with apples crappy restrictions how could any malware get onto a NON jailbroken device lol
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post #42 of 60
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However, just because there are viruses written for Windows doesn't make it insecure.

Insecurity only happens when it affects the end user. My Windows installs have been just as secure as any *nix-based kernel because I keep it that way.
Not true. Yes, making sure that your computer is kept up to date with antivirus software and not visiting dodgy websites helps - but when there are exploits in the operating system itself or in plugins you use (such as, for example, Java), what you're saying doesn't work. Visiting a compromised website (for example, in the past the USPS website has been compromised) could lead you to having your computer infected - despite your best efforts.

*nix systems are stronger in this respect - they tend to have relatively few pieces of malware targeted at mainstream users (servers are another story).

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duh, with apples crappy restrictions how could any malware get onto a NON jailbroken device lol
Bugs in iOS itself, rather than malicious apps. Pretty much any jailbreaking method is an example of how you *could* install malware (not saying jailbreaking is malware, just that you could install malware using the same exploits).

For example, that PDF exploit that meant that you could jailbreak an iphone simply by visiting jailbreakme.com
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post #43 of 60
Trend Micro also says they're a great anti-virus company.

Not denying the claim, just wanted to say that. Of COURSE it's less secure. It's completely open for the worst of coders to make apps for with hidden malware. Has it happened yet? Not to a great extent. Will it happen? Possibly. Will it be a big deal? Most likely not.
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post #44 of 60
You expect Steve Chang answered everything and solution?? look at ROME's ruins, Geek's ruins and on.. Chang wont solve nor answer.. He wanna be MR EVERYTHING..
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I doubt either OS takes security seriously. It's a cell phone... You're not gonna get decent encryption on such a simple device.

This decision was probably arrived at by coin toss.
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Not denying the claim, just wanted to say that. Of COURSE it's less secure. It's completely open for the worst of coders to make apps for with hidden malware.
If that's the case, why don't we see malware on Linux, BSD, and OpenSolaris? All three have almost a completely 100% open-source code. I see no hidden malware anywhere.
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If that's the case, why don't we see malware on Linux, BSD, and OpenSolaris? All three have almost a completely 100% open-source code. I see no hidden malware anywhere.
It's also because they're secure to the point where you'd have to be trying to install malware, there's not many holes.

Ironic considering Android is mostly Linux based...
    
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post #48 of 60
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It's also because they're secure to the point where you'd have to be trying to install malware, there's not many holes.

Ironic considering Android is mostly Linux based...
Not true. Whilst Linux systems are fairly secure, much of it is to do with security by obscurity - and because of sensibly implemented user elevation.

But what is the definition of malware? On a desktop, malware generally has to be root in order to cause serious damage and be hard to remove - but Android apps can terminate each other and if permission is given, access your Google Apps account. If an application purports to be a feed reader of some kind but instead uploads all your emails to a server in Russia - it's clearly malware but doesn't need full system access. There were a series of banking apps that were removed from the Market a few months back - they were phishing apps.

The App Store is different in that you can't install non-approved apps - so malicious apps are far harder to install.

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If that's the case, why don't we see malware on Linux, BSD, and OpenSolaris? All three have almost a completely 100% open-source code. I see no hidden malware anywhere.
Just because something is *nix does not automatically make it secure - it's how the specific *nix variety is implemented. In terms of user applications, Linux, BSD and the late OpenSolaris never had the userbase to attract the attention of hackers - furthermore most viruses rely on user stupidity for installation - and whilst Linux certainly has some basic users, it's unlikely anyone would install a BSD distribution or an old version of OpenSolaris (there is no such thing anymore) without being technically competant.

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I doubt either OS takes security seriously. It's a cell phone... You're not gonna get decent encryption on such a simple device.

This decision was probably arrived at by coin toss.
Rubbish.
You know the chip in credit/debit cards performs encryption? It's not a difficult process. Also, encryption doesn't mean security. Just because your data is encrypted doesn't make your computer secure.

You seem to lack even a basic understanding of computer security.
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post #49 of 60
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Trend Micro also says they're a great anti-virus company.
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We should have closed the thread there cause that says it all!
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Originally Posted by thiussat View Post
If that's the case, why don't we see malware on Linux, BSD, and OpenSolaris? All three have almost a completely 100% open-source code. I see no hidden malware anywhere.
Android runs off Linux kernel, your point is moot. Linux on PCs isn't as mainstream as Android is on phones. No one codes malware for Linux because they don't CARE to, there's no point in putting in the effort if it's only going to "infect" such few machines.
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